• Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    In fairness, most of the avant-garde jazz groups that came out of Ann Arbor, MI at the end of the 80s were Goopenists. Two of the best known ones have names that are anagrams of "Spontaneous Councilism" (Opossum's Canticle Union and Numinous Calico Stepson.) In fact I'm pretty sure Jean-Baptiste Frazzwell played at Goopen's fourth wedding, although I have no idea who the backing musicians would have been, since this would have been before the second Frazztones lineup came together but after the first lineup died of hantavirus.

  • hahafuck [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Goopen is actually right in a lot of places but the weird sex stuff really discredits his analysis

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    2 years ago

    What a small world, Prof. Goopen was actually one of my mentors. We had many long discussions about Spontaneous Councillism, and he no longer stands by it.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I've read this entire thread and I still don't know if y'all made Goopen up or not, and I'm not going to check.

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    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It was a tempest in a Goopy teapot, what were they fighting over? The International Worker's Goopzette? Nobody even reads that newspaper, and the Goopiet-Goopino camp (as much as they'd hate being lumped together) has never held power over anything else.

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  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    A lot of twitter councilists are just LARPing radlibs, unsurprisingly. They know exactly 1 Goopen quote and they all use it incorrectly as well, it makes me groan every time I see it. The subreddit sucks ass too.

    Goopen was right about a lot of things, yeah the bit about the turnips and the romani people was hard to sit through but if you can look past that (as difficult as it may be, unfortunately) there's a lot to learn about socialism in the baltics.

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" applies as much to political ideology as it does to political organizations. No one cares about your meme ideology if orgs that espouse that ideology have no impact on the material world, especially if they lack the means of defending themselves or exerting their political will.

  • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Let's just say that multiple times in just a few years someone has come forward in an org I was in to announce [X] Socialism, which sounds like a thing you may have heard of but no they just made it up and think they're really cool and smart. And then they try to get people to join their "side" and announce they are [X] Socialists.

    Basically just kids on the playground talking about why their doll action figure would beat up yours.