LOOK AT THIS DOPE ASS BEAR
Jealous? 
Honestly if the result of the federation is just every lib instance defederating and having to write one of these "it's not for ideological reasons, it's just that supporting NATO is mandatory" announcements it's all been worth it, that shit is funny as hell
Literally nothing changes for us except them starting internal conflict, which is definitely fun to go poke at with a stick
Yeah, our phase of having site-destroying struggle sessions has been over quite awhile. For these new instances, they’re just getting started.
The current mods are chill. The current active user base is chill. Most of the posts are either News Of The Day or hobbies or podcast drama or inside joke shit posts.
Imagine being a community that's terrified of this.
speaking of inside joke good god, this one user I've been arguing with on .world keeps insisting that no one on this instance or lemmygrad is joking actually, we're all serious 100% of the time, and I'm just like... hello? I use this instance, I know when people are joking, you don't, please stfu like holyshit I don't know why concern trolling drives me so fucking nuts
No, everything has to be serious at all times and we cannot find any humor in the absurdity of hell world.
The last time I smiled was on August 19th, 1991.
I wear a dirty ushanka at all times, do not shave, and only take cold sponge baths because hot running water is bourgeoisie decadence.
Every day at exactly noon I have the same meal of an expired Maoist MRE I store in a pit covered in old issues of a revolutionary newspaper.
I sleep in a bed made of flags from every failed revolution so that they are never forgotten.
In the evenings I stare at a picture of vodka by candlelight, but I do not allow myself to drink because there is nothing to celebrate.
Every local org has banned me after I attempted to split it by assassinating the leadership.
There is no plumbing in my house I shit in a brass bucket with a picture of Gonzalo and Deng french kissing in the bottom of it.
My house is actually an overturned T34 in an abandoned junkyard in Wisconsin.
I have a single friend in this world and it is a tapeworm named Bordiga that I met after ingesting spoiled borscht on 9/11 in the ruins of building 7 (I blew it up after finding that a nominally leftist NGO inside of it wasn’t sufficiently anti-imperialist, the attacks on the world trade center were a perfect revolutionary moment for me to enact direct praxis against liberalism).
My source of income is various MLM schemes in the former soviet bloc that have been running for so long no one remembers who I am, they just keep sending money.
I have not paid taxes since McGovern lost the Democratic nomination for president and my faith in electoralism died more brutally than my childhood dog after it got into an entire jar of tylenol.
I own 29 fully automatic rusted kalashnikovs and three crates of ammunition entirely incompatible with them or any other firearms I own.
My double PHD in marxist economics and 18th century Swiss philosophy (required to understand Engels) sits over the fireplace of my home, my fireplace is a salvaged drum from a 1950s washing machine that was recalled for locking children inside of it.
I chose that washing machine model on purpose because I am anti-natalist.
During the latest BLM protests I firebombed a Nikes outlet in the middle of a peaceful candlelit vigil.
William F Buckley and I wrote hatemail to one another for 47 years until my final letter gave him an aneurysm. The only water I drink is from puddles.
George Lucas and I dropped acid together during an MKULTRA southern baptist summer camp and he went on to write the movie Willow about our time together.
The best way to test whether an electrical wire is live is to drool on it and shrimp salad is racist. You can make an IED out of potassium and the instructions are online thanks to Timothy McVey, who was actually a committed antifascist communist slandered by the deep state as part of operation condor.
Every time a liberal files a restraining order against me, I carve a mark into the wall.
I am running out of walls.
When Amerika finally collapses I will be ready to lead the revolution.
I am very smart and people like being around me.
We're not joking about being communists or the stuff that people assume is ironic like supporting AES states, but we do joke a lot around the margins
We're only serious about the bad stuff, like the :gulag
and 
👽 
and not pouring homeless people in to wood chippers 🪵 and ending the NATOspehere's 
cruel and vicious attempts at world domination and being mean to Brandon who is just a smol bean president trying his very hardest! 
Chill by our standards, but to them we're terrifying tankist herbicide deniers with doubleplusungood heterodox thought patterns, like "Actually it's bad when NATO does stuff" and "Racism isn't okay just because you used an algorithm to do it" and "Seize the means of production, abolish private property, end wage labor, and create a moneyless, classless, stateless society and/or a society structured on mutual aid".
don't forget the absolute worst transgression, "I'm glad slaveowners are dead"
oh that's true. It's exremely important to use civil language when discussing gerontocratic hell liches and their ruthless campaigns of murder, slavery, and destruction! Being uncivil is just not done, even though we have no political power or ability to influence them and are just pointing out the staggeringly inhuman violence they casually unleash on the world every day!
I'm looking forward to seeing screenshots from beehaw's inevitable dramatic implosion.
The acme of skill is not to win a thousand battles. The acme of skill is to win without fighting.
Just
this out there for the Lemmy libs:Both sides of a war can be bad. We don't have to support either. The working class are the only victims, and will continue to be victimized until peace is negotiated.
I know. I know. This makes me a woke tankie. I bring shame on our house.
They say in Донецька обл, there are no neutrals there
You'll either be a NATO dog or a бич запада
And if you're not 100% on our side, you're on Putin's side and repeating Russian propaganda.
I think my favorite comment on their announcement was the one that was like, "they're even on MOSCOW TIME!" If that was one of you jokers making a funny, don't tell me. Just let me enjoy it.
There were so many good ones to choose from. The one where they were getting afraid of the wrong instance and it had to be pointed out to them. The one concerned about our mods because them asking us to be polite was a real world "cult brainwashing tactic". The one who'd read Marx but wasn't a communist because no communist organisation in the world today talked about workers or class struggle and actually the Democrats had done more to size the means of production for the worker.
There were a lot of funny ones. The only one that pissed me off was the one that said we were prejudiced on the basis of race, religion, and something else. Gender, maybe? That one almost convinced me to make an account just to say, "Excuse me, what the fuck?" But I managed to make healthy decisions and not get into a fight with a dumbass in the middle of the night.
But I managed to make healthy decisions and not get into a fight with a dumbass in the middle of the night
based
Lemmyworld is forever going to be referred to as the instance full of pedos, transphobes and fascists that tried its hardest not to defederate an explicitly nazi instance while pulling this shit with a soft dirtbag left instance that spawned from the chapo podcast of all things.
Like, what a fucking reputation to give yourselves so early on.
Haha, your comment is taken as example by a poster with many upvotes to why it is good to not federate with us. Since it shows people obvious dunking (so people being uncivil) aren't allowed liberal rights of the marketplace of ideas. They feel it is unfair to label them "full of pedos" (for taking to long to ban the stuff, unfair to be labeled transphobes (though there is still plenty to be found on the site, unless hexbear), unfair to be labeled being more friendly to fascists than socialists.
Funny that the unfair labeling of hexbear's userbase doesn't seem to be as unfair.
If they don't want to be labelled as "full of pedos" then they shouldn't be federated with instances serving pedo content while defederating with instances like ours.
They've made their bed, they can lie in it. They think a bunch of socialists are worse than pedos and nazis. They can have a taste of what that means in terms of reputation when thousands and thousands of people repeat it everywhere.
In fairness we are probably the largest community of actual communists and anarchists etc that have read the manifesto and the bread book.certainly in America and kkklanada and probably in much of western euroe, too.
That's a very bold claim you've made that people here have read the manifesto and the break book
I think GZD, even in it's current form is still the largest tbh
Quarantined. I don’t understand why that effectively killed the sub, but didn’t for r/cth.
As far as I know, a replacement hasn’t sprung up yet on
. They were recommending people move to Lemmygrad when it was first quarantined.
I went to lemmyworld for the first time and holy fuck I didn't realize they were actual libs. Like they're talking about how Biden is doing an amazing job as president type of libs. I thought they were just the lamer side of socialism but no they're actual liberals wtf
Biden is doing an amazing job as president
Hell yeah, strike-breaker and warmonger in chief doing a great job strike-breaking and warmongering.
It's okay that he broke the strike because months later there was some kind of deal I guess. /libs
They were talking about how they're already pre-emptively sick about hearing about Biden breaking the rail strike when it comes re-election time. They're already breaking out the Bernie bro signs again
re-election time
I'm going to complain about this indefinitely, forever or at least until I die
Child poverty being way up from when Trump, the goofball proto-fascist, was in charge
Nah, there are plenty of decent Mastodon instances, and have been since the beginning. It has been a little radlib heavy, but this sort of liberal only came in with the Twitter collapse.
It's a crappy announcement. I understand where that admin is coming from, I understand why it seems reasonable to block politically-specific communities (well, if they weren't explicitly 'for everyone'). But it's telling that even their own users are saying 'that's dumb'. Not to mention the internal contradictions.
Show
^even a user on the instance that pre-emptively blocked lemmygrad is seeing the problem
At least we can fill up the dunk tank with it. Our mere existence is a threat, it would seem.
FEDERATION,
NO BREATHING
DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF THE LIBS ARE SEETHING
wouldn't want anyone to LEARN something or CHANGE THEIR MINDS
I guess we can legitimately add "I identify as a threat" to the header now.
We're not politically specific, though. We embrace the entire political spectrum from ultra-posadism to anarcho-cannibalism!
We are specifically "a leftist platform", and you must understand how atrocious and radical that is!1
They got super upset about me pointing out that we're over here having a great time while they wring their hands and yell at each other lol
holy shit this is great, one of them is now educating me on what communism is lmao:
This is prime example of my point.
Just so you know, we like communists (mostly, we are communists), we’re generally OK with socialists
Your statement reveals you have no knowledge of the subject or ideals you claim to believe in. Communism is a process in which to establish a Socialist utopia. It was conceived by Marx based on the Machiavellian quote “The ends justify the means.” and was laid out in the Communist Manifesto. It is a militant process in which to implement SOCIALISM by force. I am guessing you are a fan of how things worked out in China?
I like when libs talk about the Communist Manifesto like it's some sort of step by step plan on how to achieve Communism. It's a pretty easy sign there is not reason to engage with someone if they're too brain dead or disingenuous to read a 30 page pamphlet.
Machiavellian quote “The ends justify the means.”
Hasn't even read The Prince either
I don't think it's quite well-seasoned enough for a tagline but it's close.
There was a famine sixty years, two governments, and at least one massive economic reform ago therefore communism bad.
Why do these communist countries keep having only one famine, early in their development, followed by no other famines and rapid increases in welfare and nutrition? Must be because they're ontologically evil and want to do genocide by famine
Your statement reveals you have no knowledge of the subject or ideals you claim to believe in.
Marx writes a book where he gets a little annoyed about the cost of linen and coats and shit while begging for money from his sugar daddy
Then these dorks come around and try to tell everyone he was some evil Machiavellian genius who wanted to murder billions
Marx was an evil genius
Marx was a dude's rock dude who spent way too much time in the government archives in London and once got kicked out of the house because he was up all night playing chess and having epic gamer moments.
Did Machiavelli say the ends justify the means? He spent a lot of pages talking about Virtu in his art of war book. The Prince is kind of it's own thing and I don't think we'll ever have broad agreement on whether it's supposed to be read straight or read as satire.
http://factmyth.com/factoids/machiavelli-said-the-ends-justify-the-means/
No, but something close to it. Which isn't a wonder since consequentialist and realpolitik texts do precede him.
However what I heard sometimes was that it was from here:
dear lemmy.imperialcore
you claim that we're authoritarian tankies, yet all of us are liberals, curios
I love the one troll in that thread calling everyone "woke globalist tankies" that none of them can resist feeding
Were we really gonna federate with these nerds? C'mon.
wrong i know exactly what i am talking about same as the admins there is a clear and present danger from the woke instances on lemmy
hexbear (tankie) lemmy (woke) lemmygrad (tankie) those three are the oldest lemmy instances and coordinate their tankie bunkers to ensure there is contant woke comments in every post unless they are BLOCKED … like you are now BLOCKED because you are a tankie
bye
I’m quite fond of the line “ wrong i know exactly what i am talking about same as the admins”.
Is that all one person?
I hope my worldview isn't that bizarre and incoherent and I just don't know due to limited perspective.
They have the Maoist uprising against the landlord quote in Mandarin on their profile.
100% a BMF alt poking the hornets nest. Our resident uhhh... whatever that guy that pretendeds to be old and does satirical over the top replies is called.
It's not nonsensical enough to be BMF but I 100% believe it to be one of us. Kudos, whoever you are
The problem I see with it is that outsiders don't get the bit, but take them for face value (which you will note from the upvotes the bit account got).
Honestly, fine? If they got the bit they wouldn't be such fucking bootlicking nerds to begin with. It's funny to watch idiots self-harm arguing against trolls.
I'm so sick and tired of all you fucking wokies ruining Lemmy.
By my count they are up to 100-120 posts in that thread.
Got to respect the commitment.
Check out their post history, it’s almost all news articles I’ve seen in the news mega.
No wonder you got defederated, you don't know how to be civil 😡 I bet you wouldn't even have a discussion on whether or not the site full of racists is bad.
Relationship ended with lemmyworld. I think Lemm.ee should be the star of the show, it has significantly more potential if turned into the largest instance and from what I can tell the admin is significantly more chill. I thought this about Ruud though and did not believe lemmyworld would defed us before grad so my judgement is
What does it take to get dessalines to put lemm.ee at the top of join-lemmy ?
EDIT: Nevermind they're way ahead of me lmao.
Yeah, I never thought .world would be friendly but this is more drastic than I would have expected.
Never underestimate liberals' ability to throw an absolute fit when attacked from the left. They are desperate to think of themselves as, "as progressive as it gets" and will actively seek out any excuse, including making things up, for why the person telling them capitalism is bad is actually a very problematic individual/organization and are basically the same as Nazis if you really (don't) think about it.
Seen this play out so many times irl, lol. You can't do shit with liberals because once you oppose something they identify with (e.g. a war crimes supporting politician) they will take it very personally.
I've had that shit with radlibs, yeah. They will find any way to twist what you say into being "conservative, actually".
Horseshoe theory. Hitler had skin, stalin had skin. Ergo, defederate hexbear
But... but... Nazis called their party "National Socialists" and as everyone knows, they were completely trustworthy, never disgustingly distorted facts in any way, and got along all hunky dory with Marxists domestic and abroad!
Their brains are locked into a pattern, like a tiny model train making the rounds. 99% of the time in their lives, they have punched right (capitalist hellhole denizens), so they want a way to get back on that track. It's yearning for a little choo choo that says, "red faah tankie".
I'm new here so not privy to any secret plans that may exist. but it isn't clear to me they are being "attacked" from anywhere. They are just having an uneasy feeling is all. ??
they took a post explicitly calling for decorum from hexbear users post-federation as evidence of a plan of attack
they're pretty silly people
Never underestimate liberals' ability to throw an absolute fit when attacked from the left. They are desperate to think of themselves as, "as progressive as it gets"
They are "as leftist as they come,
" according to their own sophistic bullshit.Narrator voice: That was not actually as left as it comes, and in fact they were liberals that wanted free college and legal weed and everything left of that was scary to them.
Why should we bother to reply to lemmy.world? They would reply to us and we would have to reply to their reply. There's no end to that. It would be quite enough for us to announce that lemmy.world is a traitor to the working class, and everyone will understand everything.
I guess the spectre of Chapo continues to haunt
Hilarious that by far the largest Lemmy instance feels threatened by us tho
NOOOO YOU HAVE TO PICK A SIDE!
Kkkracker 
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