I don't know how I feel about this joke. If the person who originally posted it in the /r/cth days was posting in earnest, then picking on them isn't great. I'm sure there are more than a few people who feel that this is their only outlet or source of left wing voices. It just seems weird to kick one of our own for something that isn't chuddy
Not trying to start anything, but I've never seen this brought up.
I think even at the time the consensus was that the poster was right, and closing the sub was a shitty joke that took away an outlet a lot of people relied on. But now the sub is long gone, the people who ran the sub are long gone, and we're on like ten degrees of ship of theseus shit by now and calling out "closing the site as a joke wasn't ok" every time there's scheduled or unscheduled downtime for whatever reason is divorced from its original intent and is now just a meme form of complaining about downtime. I feel like people say it because it's the rote thing you say after downtime, like cursing someone's ancestors when they sneeze.
Fair. I'm not really trying to advocate for this joke to be banned or whatever.
I just hope that we won't do it to someone else again.
And yes, I think that joke was unfunny. Not just because it hurt someone's feelings. It was just some reddit brained "hehe the sex and weed number" and "let's flex our mod muscles for no good reason".
I was there for the bunny cop fetishist and it was funny, but it probably wouldn't happen now because of the internal site culture. Like maybe if someone from a federated site came onto c/anime with some wild take like "Made in Abyss is revolutionary and good" (it's actually the worst thing anyone has ever made and its fans should all go larp it in ) and kept doubling and tripling down on it over a 200+ comment thread, that might get memed on when people dredge their profile and find a bunch of weird creepy posts they made on other federated sites, but just having kind of a weird and cringe take doesn't start the same sort of feeding frenzy.
No context for the other emoji at all, some twitter thing? Never used the bad bird site.
Yea, I agree with you. I haven't seen the reddit post, but this is legitimately my only left/trans support and is incredibly important to me. So I understand why someone would think removing that support, that they or others might rely on isn't funny. But I don't expect joking about it is going to change, and I'm not trying to be the fun police.
That's what I was trying to convey. I'm not trying to police people, but there are real users behind these screens, and we don't know their lives. They could be in an abusive situation, homeless without a safety net, or just plain lonely.
Commenting about posting about shutting down the site is not not ok. I was not happy with my grass touching experience. Mostly because it was mowing my overgrown back yard.
I agree, especially since it's certainly not like it's a bit that's really funny enough to be doing over and over again for the last like half a decade oe whatever
Internet forums don't matter and you should be prepared to do something else with your time if you have to. Consider the original cth sub--eventually, it was taken down by Reddit with no recourse from any of us. Anybody like that poster who genuinely relied on it emotionally was thrown straight in the deep end, especially if they happened to be busy and not logging on during the period between which the ark discord was made and the sub was banned. They'd have just shown up for their slop one day and found that the sub was gone, and that anywhere old users from the sub gathered was being banned immediately. If they remembered specific usernames to check where people were going they'd likely enough find those accounts banned too.
So any amount of temporary downtime the sub ever did, any time that people were forced to get used to the idea of doing something else with their time without losing the place entirely, was ultimately positive imo. It helped to draw the line, that internet forums are not orgs and you need to form networks of people not irony-poisoned internet comedians. The point of the cth sub and of this site is to waste some time and laugh, and if you consider them anything more then imo you need to put effort into changing that.
Again, some people don't have much. I'm doing pretty well, but I have zero leftism in my life outside of here. I need catharsis.
I can't "organize" because I live in a town of 400 trump supporters. I'm so beaten down by work and chores, all I want to do is chill in my free time. I have hobbies. Hell, I have property and some good friends who are always down to hang out on weekends.
Not everyone is as fortunate as me. I'm not saying hexbear or /r/cth was the movement, but it was something. It was a place to expose others to ideas and self crit. There are a ton of leftists here who can draw a direct line to their radicalization through the aforementioned websites and podcasts. Thats worth something, and I've always hated the attitude of "it's just a prank bro". Or that this place is just a huge garbage dump. Maybe that's the way some people use it, but others get a lot more out of it.
I don't know how I feel about this joke. If the person who originally posted it in the /r/cth days was posting in earnest, then picking on them isn't great. I'm sure there are more than a few people who feel that this is their only outlet or source of left wing voices. It just seems weird to kick one of our own for something that isn't chuddy
Not trying to start anything, but I've never seen this brought up.
I think even at the time the consensus was that the poster was right, and closing the sub was a shitty joke that took away an outlet a lot of people relied on. But now the sub is long gone, the people who ran the sub are long gone, and we're on like ten degrees of ship of theseus shit by now and calling out "closing the site as a joke wasn't ok" every time there's scheduled or unscheduled downtime for whatever reason is divorced from its original intent and is now just a meme form of complaining about downtime. I feel like people say it because it's the rote thing you say after downtime, like cursing someone's ancestors when they sneeze.
Fair. I'm not really trying to advocate for this joke to be banned or whatever.
I just hope that we won't do it to someone else again.
And yes, I think that joke was unfunny. Not just because it hurt someone's feelings. It was just some reddit brained "hehe the sex and weed number" and "let's flex our mod muscles for no good reason".
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I was there for the bunny cop fetishist and it was funny, but it probably wouldn't happen now because of the internal site culture. Like maybe if someone from a federated site came onto c/anime with some wild take like "Made in Abyss is revolutionary and good" (it's actually the worst thing anyone has ever made and its fans should all go larp it in
) and kept doubling and tripling down on it over a 200+ comment thread, that might get memed on when people dredge their profile and find a bunch of weird creepy posts they made on other federated sites, but just having kind of a weird and cringe take doesn't start the same sort of feeding frenzy.
No context for the other emoji at all, some twitter thing? Never used the bad bird site.
That's dialectics for you.
Yea, I agree with you. I haven't seen the reddit post, but this is legitimately my only left/trans support and is incredibly important to me. So I understand why someone would think removing that support, that they or others might rely on isn't funny. But
I don't expect joking about it is going to change, and I'm not trying to be the fun police.
That's what I was trying to convey. I'm not trying to police people, but there are real users behind these screens, and we don't know their lives. They could be in an abusive situation, homeless without a safety net, or just plain lonely.
Posting about shutting the site down for a joke for a joke is not okay
Commenting about posting about shutting down the site is not not ok. I was not happy with my grass touching experience. Mostly because it was mowing my overgrown back yard.
I agree, especially since it's certainly not like it's a bit that's really funny enough to be doing over and over again for the last like half a decade oe whatever
With how short of an attention span "the internet" has, it's weird what things have staying power. It's rarely ever the good stuff in my opinion
Internet forums don't matter and you should be prepared to do something else with your time if you have to. Consider the original cth sub--eventually, it was taken down by Reddit with no recourse from any of us. Anybody like that poster who genuinely relied on it emotionally was thrown straight in the deep end, especially if they happened to be busy and not logging on during the period between which the ark discord was made and the sub was banned. They'd have just shown up for their slop one day and found that the sub was gone, and that anywhere old users from the sub gathered was being banned immediately. If they remembered specific usernames to check where people were going they'd likely enough find those accounts banned too.
So any amount of temporary downtime the sub ever did, any time that people were forced to get used to the idea of doing something else with their time without losing the place entirely, was ultimately positive imo. It helped to draw the line, that internet forums are not orgs and you need to form networks of people not irony-poisoned internet comedians. The point of the cth sub and of this site is to waste some time and laugh, and if you consider them anything more then imo you need to put effort into changing that.
Again, some people don't have much. I'm doing pretty well, but I have zero leftism in my life outside of here. I need catharsis.
I can't "organize" because I live in a town of 400 trump supporters. I'm so beaten down by work and chores, all I want to do is chill in my free time. I have hobbies. Hell, I have property and some good friends who are always down to hang out on weekends.
Not everyone is as fortunate as me. I'm not saying hexbear or /r/cth was the movement, but it was something. It was a place to expose others to ideas and self crit. There are a ton of leftists here who can draw a direct line to their radicalization through the aforementioned websites and podcasts. Thats worth something, and I've always hated the attitude of "it's just a prank bro". Or that this place is just a huge garbage dump. Maybe that's the way some people use it, but others get a lot more out of it.