• wren@feddit.uk
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    5 months ago

    I've heard people say both "young people are more politically conscious than ever" and also "young people are more disengaged/disillusioned from democracy than ever"

    Whilst those things can both be true, I think it's v important now to try and get young people actively engaged with politics.

    But also - we should keep trying to get older generations to be kinder, too.

    I've been told "your generation will make the world right again!" by the generations above mine, since I was in primary school. 20 years later, we're still waiting for conservatives to die off. If climate change has proven anything, it's that we should all be doing more than just waiting it out

  • buried_treasure@feddit.uk
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    5 months ago

    That "assuming nothing else changes" is doing a huge amount of heavy lifting.

    Something that I heard a few years ago really demonstrated people's rightward political shift as they age like nothing else.

    Imagine a child born shortly after the end of the Second World War, say 1948-1950. That child would have been a young adult, 18-20, in 1968. That was both the year that the hippie movement gained greatest prominence as well as the year of radical protest where young people around the world organised and fought back against corruption and repression.

    Now fast forwards to 2016. Those very same post-war children are now aged 66-68. That's the demographic that more than any other voted in favour of Brexit. I bet if you'd gone back to those young radicals of '68 and told them they were going to become bigoted, narrow-minded xenophobes they'd have laughed in your face. But it happened.

    • jabjoe@feddit.uk
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      5 months ago

      But that's the whole problem. People haven't been turning Tory as they get older. So the Tory base is aging out of the population.

      The Torys probably have at least another term of crazy, before they get their ship in order. They'll have some new "hug a hoodie" centrist leader and stop being so visibly the naughty party.

    • HumanPenguin@feddit.uk
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      5 months ago

      Ill assume you are 28+ and have decided its not worth it.

      Id offer help. But id likely make it worse.

        • HumanPenguin@feddit.uk
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          5 months ago

          I think we may need more then just removing the old from logins run.

          Older people turn right not due to being old. But due to responsibilities (children also depts etc but mainly children) and the need to protect that wealth to cover responsibilities.

          So to ensure we don't just end up with people turning right at a younger age. We would need to remove generational wealth. IE the whole idea of being able to make life better or worse for your children. As the risk of having nothing to aid your children is the pressure that turns many right.

          So we need to move to nationalised breeding programs and state raising of children.

          Much like the show indicated.

          Honestly add the invention of teleportation and nationalisation of tinder gets us pretty close to how the show managed that as well.

            • HumanPenguin@feddit.uk
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              5 months ago

              Did you get the very first job you applied for?

              Win the very first game of any sport.

              Yeah you get the point. As much as I am kidding about removing children from parents etc.

              Something failing in the past is not evidence of it invalidity as a solution. Just the need to reevaluate the methodology.

              Maybe matrix should be our movie rather the logins run on that part. ;) remove all human interaction untill adult and brainwash the little shitheads to vote appropriately.