Love how it's just one (presumably) Chinese person posting corrections and (presumably) a bunch of white western libs just saying "NUH UH" or literally just replying Uyghur Tiananman square!!11! as literal thought terminating cliches.
Edit: oh yeah and one Czech comrade too.
found the chinese bot
Liberals just don't believe Chinese people have agency
God damn libs really only have like 6 aRgUmEnTs don't they? It's beyond conspiracy theory now. It's straight up a flat earther mentality. They have their fingers in their ears yelling "TIENAMEN SQUARE TEINAMIN SQUARE I CANT HEAR YOU TIENAMEN SQUARE".
How embarrassing.
Did I actually read "what about"? Isn't this WhAtAbOuTiSm!?!? Tanky orc confirmed!
They always use the same dog whistle's, not even a attempt for a honest discussion.
At least in the West you have the freedom to be so poor you can't afford food
I don't fucking get this whole poverty-pandering horseshit against socialism. I fucking despise it with every core of my fucking being.
I grew up without proper electricity, warm water, basic electronics in the late 90s; fucking nothing. Demunincipalized slum drifting from my grandmother and to my parents. To shower I had to warm up tubs of water in the microwave and use a cloth to wipe my shit down in the tub. I didn't eat for fucking days at a time. Candles in pots and stovepipes were what kept me alive throughout some of the harshest winters and blizzards in this fucking nation AS A CHILD.
Where is this same pandering and sympathy towards those who are victimized and destroyed by capitalism? Who's families are torn apart by the sheer atomization of society and the constant desire for escape that manifests in so many of the unhealthy behaviors that plague us day to day? Alcoholism, addiction, violence spurred by desperate poverty? No, no; those are the choices of rational actors choosing to be killed off by the thousands due to austerity.
They'll crusade this against you, acting like you shouldn't support socialism because "my parents had to put their feets in shit to stay warm" (doubt) when the alternative hasn't GIVEN ME A GOD DAMN THING. Oh no no, I had to stay alive by curling around the open burning gas stove; that's much better, right?
They'll find endless excuses to justify your poverty; but when a socialist talks about their grandfather's poverty after getting kicked off the slave farm it's all ears and brains.
I work around teenagers. I once listened to a highschool redditor coaching his league of legends team and tell them that if they are losing to a Chinese team then to start yelling "tianammen square!" over the chat because the ceeceepee will disconnect the Chinese team. He claimed he did this all the time and it worked each time. The amount of confidence he said this with was unnerving.
These reddit libs really believe this is some sort of incantation that banishes reality and Chinese people.
"They quit because I was screaming my pig-feed propaganda at them like a deranged cultist! Truly, it works every time!"
Are we ever going to get gpt-Marx? Or gpt-mao?
Would be nice to be able to counter shitty bits with friendly ai.
Makes me think all the stuff about "purity tests" that "the left" gets accused of is pure projection. Because like, setting aside the fact that these people tend to use talking points of events that are exaggerated, distorted, or outright lies about something "communism did," they are always so quick to attribute any sort of perceived failure under a socialist state to communism, but will drag their feet about ever doing the same with capitalism. I find it goes something like: "If someone dies under capitalism, it's because human nature is flawed and you can't prevent all harm, but capitalism is as good as it gets. If someone dies under communism, it's because communists are always cartoonishly evil no matter how good it sounds on paper and they are simultaneously weak rulers who can't accomplish anything and totalitarian regimes who monitor every minute of their citizens' lives and do their best to make it a living hell for no apparent reason." At least with capital, we can point to a system level motive for exploitation and dominance of others, how the mechanisms of accumulating and holding onto capital are directly tied to that. Where is the motive among communists? If they are as evil as they are made out to be, what is the point of them doing a communism when they can do a capitalism and be praised as "freedom free" while being exploitative of others?
It's like that line in Blackshirts and Reds (bold emphasis mine):
If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”
Communist theory and practice actively takes on the idea of being anything but purity, of contending with the "flaws", so to speak, on a scientific level and working toward better. But it gets characterized as utopian and held to unrealistic standards of perfection because... it has a positive vision for the future? Augh, it makes my head hurt.
