• SeaJ@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    The operating system that Google created to collect your data is secure? Not unless you get rid of all the Google services.

      • CandyDumDub@lemm.ee
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        11 months ago

        Android is AOSP, it has no Google at all. Don't confuse OEM ROMs and Android Open Source Project. As someone with GrapheneOS I can only laugh when someone calls iOS more private

        • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
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          11 months ago

          I don't confuse anything. All flavours of Android are secure systems, but that doesn't mean they're all private.

          I definitely agree with you that Graphene is more private than iOS, which is probably more private than most OEM Android systems out there.

            • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
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              11 months ago

              So, originally I simply stated that privacy and security aren't the same, and that Android as a whole is very secure.

              And from this, you somehow extrapolated that I don't know the difference between AOSP and OEM Systems?

              Enlighten me.

  • June@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    The whiplash between posts on Lemmy is so great.

    Everyone seems to hate google and how invasive they are while simultaneously simping for google’s mobile OS

    This shit is so stupid.

    • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      If one person believes one thing and another person believes the opposite, that doesn't mean they're hypocrites. That means there isn't a consensus. Besides, android can be better than iOS and deserving of criticism at the same time.

    • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
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      11 months ago

      Android can be whatever a dedicated community wants it to be, since it's open source at its AOSP core.

      I love AOSP, but I hate what Google does with it. Or most other manufacturers, for that matter.

      • chocobo13z@pawb.social
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        11 months ago

        Chromium is open source, too, but so many projects putting all their eggs in the same basket gives Google carte blanche to push any standard they want as a new de-facto standard before the rest of us can decide on whether it's ready or needs changes or is just bad.

    • Orcocracy [comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      If you can't or don't want to root the phone and install your own de-Googled Android rom then you could get an Android phone designed for mainland China, which will come with all of the Google stuff already removed.

      • June@lemm.ee
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        11 months ago

        Because I’d trust anything Chinese/for China more than I’d trust google.

        • uralsolo
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          8 months ago

          deleted by creator

        • robinn2
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          10 months ago

          deleted by creator

        • Orcocracy [comrade/them]
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          11 months ago

          Yikes, that’s an ugly looking turn of phrase. I guess I’m blocking another racist.

          • June@lemm.ee
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            11 months ago

            Holy shit lmao.

            It’s no secret that the Chinese government controls everything Chinese companies produce. If I’m using any digital item made in China I assume it sends whatever info it can on me back to China. This is nothing to do with Chinese people and everything to do with its authoritarian government.

            Touch some grass and learn the concept of nuance you twat.

            • bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              11 months ago

              Touch some grass and learn the concept of nuance you twat.

              They're from hexbear, you'll have better luck telling fire to be wet

      • bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        11 months ago

        Saying privacy is better on Android is literally insane, I can't think of a less private OS (talking about the version installed by manufacturers). Even Windows has some catching up to do to be as invasive.

    • qjkxbmwvz@lemmy.sdf.org
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      11 months ago

      For wifi, I was pleasantly surprised that I could set a custom DNS on iOS while still using DHCP for other settings. Can only set DNS on Android if I use manual IP (or just use Wireguard).

      Edit: not true, Android can have custom DNS with DHCP, see below.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        11 months ago

        I don't think that's true, Android has a setting called "Private DNS" that allows you to set a custom DNS while using DHCP. I'm using it right now.

        • qjkxbmwvz@lemmy.sdf.org
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          11 months ago

          Ah, TIL! I was looking for that setting in the WiFi settings, since I only wanted it on one access point (to avoid loopback NAT issues).

  • Jacobp100@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    Didn’t google only recently get the ability to block apps access to stuff like your camera, microphone, files etc? That was in iOS over a decade ago

    • heimchen@discuss.tchncs.de
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      11 months ago

      Its just now possible to turn it off for all apps with one swipe and on click. Like I know WhatsApp need Microphone access for voicemail, but I can turn off the access for all apps with one click and turn it one for all apps with access when I need it