Before starting, I want to emphasize death to 
and that this rant does not pertain to genuine European leftist comrades.
Especially on r/shitamericanssay back on 
(I know there are some very based comrades that participate in the sub), I see a bunch of Europeans shitting on Amerikkka for being the cancerous hellhole that it is. As much as I approve of shitting on this pathetic excuse of a nation, I just can't get across the fact that the vast majority of individuals like that are nothing but a bunch of chauvinistic hypocrites with a chronic superiority complex and an insatiable hate boner that which they conceal by LARPing as leftists.
Thing is, almost every single anti-American 
I meet online range from nothing but a glorified bunch of succdem chauvinists that stroke their hate boners (and PRETEND to "begrudgingly" kiss China's ass) to get off to the fact that they are 10% less shitty than the worst cancer to ever plague mankind at best, to straight up neolibs advocating for Russian genocide shitting on their big daddy Amerikkka for not funding the Ukraine war enough, or to God forbid, the typical Euronazi idiot making fun of the "racially impure Mutts".
Speaking as an American leftist, I know that non-American comrades are fully able to discern me from the idiots of this shithole, respecting me as another fellow comrade. But on the other hand, those hateful, bitter Euro nationalists aforementioned would most likely treat me as a subhuman cancer cell just solely based on the fact that I'm a Yank.
At least, in my personal experience, Y*nkkkoids online don't sugarcoat their shittiness (as they do in real life). They're some of the shittiest people you'll ever meet but at least they're consistent with their shittiness, flaunting their hateful idiocy and fervent anti-communism for the whole world to see. Eurolibshits, on the other hand, pretend to be morally and intellectually superior and enlightened when in reality, they're nothing but another group of bitter, hateful bootlicker morons. If there's one thing I have to agree with other Amerikkkans, it's the fact that most Eurolibs would immediately bend over and start sucking Uncle Sam's dick the moment communism starts winning (as you could see this moment) and their precious imperialist outposts 
and 
are in legitimate danger of losing
Just a rant. Anyways, have a good day comrades.
You're just describing two slightly different flavours of liberal that both exist in Europe and the USA.
sorry to use this word but these kind of threads are always cringe. inevitably devolves into a bunch of white anglos arguing over who is less racist in an attempt to publicly cleanse their conscience. I would consider
hey, can people report @frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml for doing the RW thing in this thread of posting thinly veiled reactionary shit and then running away/refusing to engage when criticised?
I think it's actually wild this user isn't banned yet, you can look here and see their history of posting straight up racist and transphobic shit, as well as other reactionary posts and plenty of stubborn liberalism: https://hexbear.net/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=92222
Lmao it's like you summoned the embodiment of this insufferable shit in @frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
can we PLEASE ban this guy they're an insufferable debatelord and wrong about everything. they genuinely give the Irish a bad name on here repeatedly.
Idk though they're doing a phenomenal job of proving OP to be absolutely correct
absolutely lol. I've just encountered them before and they're really an unpleasant and frankly reactionary person. take a look: https://hexbear.net/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=92222
that kind of transphobic concern trolling should be an instant siteban imo. don't know why they're still here.
American hogs are so mouth-frothingly angry all the time that it's easy to point them out, they wear their fascism right on their sleeve. But there's a certain type of central European EU-loving neoliberal who presents this soft and friendly facade, wearing sensible business attire and never raising their voice, who is so rabidly anticommunist and anti-immigrant it would give the ghost of Hitler pause - basically Democrats but intensified in every way.
They are the PMC spreadsheet holocaust technician, peloton fascist, health and wellness, mindfulness meditation, concentration camp builders who are so totally immersed into the 'European identity' that they're indistinguishable from Nazis. They'll explain why Ukraine needs unlimited weapons to deter Russian aggression, but immigrants need to be rounded up and deported or drowned in the Mediterranean, the same way you'd explain to a wayward child that you shouldn't touch the stove - or even with a tone of righteous indignation, 'speaking truth to power' as if they weren't 'the power' and as if they were telling the truth. And then they'll go for a bike ride along one of their many beautiful publicly-funded cycle paths.
They have completely internalized their existence as 'gardeners', the superior enlightened cultural pinnacle of the world (as opposed to the powerful but crude and tacky US), which they earned by just being better than the rest of the world in a way that gives them the right - no, the burden! - to lecture everyone else, especially the people they formerly colonized; after all, Europeans are basically trustworthy and righteous, in a way that no one else can be, because they overthrew Hitler! It's their duty to warn the naive simpletons in Africa and South America against the predations of the kind of dangerous authoritarians that the Europeans defeated, and so have been immunized against - such as those in Asia, who are all sadly pathological due to their culture but with some tough love and Balkanization could maybe one day be guided into the light of liberal democracy.
All of which gives them a totally unassailable sense of moral superiority and inner peace. The garden is blooming, the jungle is walled out, the dictators are chastised and the 'children' are receiving our guidance - all is right with the world. They're like the Eloi, except they're the ones eating people.
American hogs are so mouth-frothingly angry all the time that it's easy to point them out, they wear their fascism right on their sleeve. But there's a certain type of central European EU-loving neoliberal who presents this soft and friendly facade, wearing sensible business attire and never raising their voice, who is so rabidly anticommunist and anti-immigrant it would give the ghost of Hitler pause - basically Democrats but intensified in every way.
The difference is like between Himmler and Speer. Both are unrepentant Nazis in the end.
The most haughtily racist people online are europeans. Yanks are crude in their racism but at least they're honest about it. I'm so glad that the ukraine war is wrecking european economies.
Oh, so the ultimate fascist eurocope in the face of their mounting global irrelevancy, if I'm reading this right. Yeah, that about scans; I've only ever known one out of dozens of european emigrés who didn't fit this pattern
all kkkrakkker countries are evil and the opinions of their kkkrakkker citizens should be ignored
Death to America
I love that guy’s style. It’s like he saw that David Dees collage of Obama resurrecting Marx and thought “god damn, I wish” too
Posting opinion pieces that agree with you is not the own you think it is
keep replying, you must really not care! also for what it's worth I'm Irish you fool we've been over this before
opinions of their kkkrakkker citizens should be ignored
I think he might be talking about you homie.
one step from complaining about "anti white racism" lol keep it up
Death to global crackery and the dissembling sophistry that they employ.
Well, that's how I know you're not a yank; we don't box folk no more, we just hole-punch your ass and move on. Don't play with me; play with your playstation.
we don’t box folk no more
Yer heavyweights are shit and will be for a long time until the curse is lifted, but ye have Terence Crawford to make up for it I like him he is great
You’re right and on top of that they are also often very racist. If you shit on the US while simultaneously praising Europe you’re basically admitting that you think imperialism and racism are cool and good.
Any European who praises Europe over the US is either ignoring of glorifying the facts that thousands of African and Middle Eastern refugees die on their way to Europe every year due to criminal border policies and that probably millions are subjected to inhumane living conditions because they’re being forced to live in overcrowded encampments that lack basic necessities such as food and hygiene.
I really don’t care if Sunak experiences more or less racism here than he would in the US but I’m sure that people make racist comments about him in Europe as well.
you might be surprised. Race and racism is leveraged by reactionaries where they can, but I know a lot of chuds who were all in for Vivek Ramaswamy.
Nah, they sound exactly the same as yanks to me- which is funny not annoying as it proves these losers are all slopping at the same thought trough. I enjoy their monolithic monotony cuz when i find some european larping as a yank to shame libs into voting for genocide i laugh fit to split.
That's the ones who pump American culture into their eyes and ears all day.
It's like I've said before, it's "Spiderman pointing" societal issues: I've seen Seppos point to anti-Roma or anti-Slav racism in Europe to prove that Europeans are more racist, just like Europeans point to police brutality against Black people and Latin Americans in Seppoland to prove that that's the more racist region. I wouldn't necessarily argue that the liberals in either region are better or worse, just that they're shaped by different circumstances. I've been meaning to actually do a write-up about bourgeois vs proletarian anti-Americanism in Europe, but it is a big topic, isn't it? My own stance in brief is that Europeans' attitudes towards Seppoland are best understood through the contradictions of Europe's current subordination to Seppoland.
to get off to the fact that they are 10% less shitty than the worst cancer to ever plague mankind at best,
Trying to compare how bad Europe is compared to Seppoland feels like it's the liberals' game, and should not be ours.
the typical Euronazi idiot making fun of the "racially impure Mutts".
Honestly I feel like this doesn't get discussed nearly as much as it probably should, likewise anti-European sentiments in Seppoland. I think a lot of people act as if there aren't these sort of "dormant" racist attitudes between these groups that, while fringe for now, still point to a deeper tension that could one day flare up.
Speaking as an American leftist, I know that non-American comrades are fully able to discern me from the idiots of this shithole, respecting me as another fellow comrade. But on the other hand, those hateful, bitter Euro nationalists aforementioned would most likely treat me as a subhuman cancer cell just solely based on the fact that I'm a Yank.
I have mixed feelings about this part, it bothers me a little, I guess because I have the perspective of actually being an American born and raised and still living in Europe, but I'll need to gather my thoughts together into something cohesive before sharing them.
it's the fact that most Eurolibs would immediately bend over and start sucking Uncle Sam's dick the moment communism starts winning (as you could see this moment) and their precious imperialist outposts [Ukraine] and [the Zionist Entity] are in legitimate danger of losing
I'm not so sure about this part. I think it will depend on how things play out.
The average European is far more barbaric than the average American.
People in Europe are practically jumping in joy at the prospect of mass murdering "the others", even if it means exterminating themselves.
The American government might be diabolical but the people it is oppressing are, by and large, far less evil.
People in Europe are practically jumping in joy at the prospect of mass murdering “the others”, even if it means exterminating themselves.
I'd say this describes the old guard in the 8 or so European countries that were colonial powers. I sometimes see the British or French acting like this, yeah.
The American government might be diabolical but the people it is oppressing are, by and large, far less evil.
This is not my experience. The American underclass by and large "love the troops" and think the people they're bombing are "terrorists". If they don't love the troops they at least passively admire them, whereas I actively oppose them and think they are villains. The majority of the seppos I've spoken to take that word "terrorist" at face-value. "Well of course you have to fight them, they are terrorists" – the mind of the average seppo.
Domestically, the American public openly hate the poor, whereas Europeans see the poor as deserving of sympathy.
I'd say this describes the old guard in the 8 or so European countries that were colonial powers. I sometimes see the British or French acting like this, yeah.
Eastern Europe has its share of bootlickers, hoping to prove they are "one of the good ones".
There's an issue with this sort of conversation:
We can talk about "Americans think like this", "Iberians think like this", "Ostrogoths think like this"
But that's got limited accuracy. Everybody is an individual with individual thoughts. quot homines tot sententiae
FYI everyone this guy is obviously an Irish millennial who has never really accepted that ireland is part of Europe and that Irish culture was assimilated into hegemonic white anglo culture sometime last century. I'm sure they are privileged enough to have hardly noticed the rise of actual white supremacy on the island in the last decade or so too. our "culture" as it stands is not worth defending.
people here (like this guy) love to act like racism isn't a problem here and we could never be as racist as the French or the Americans or whatever because we were colonised. but that's nonsense talk coming from a free stater these days and everyone knows it. our country is as rotten and racist as any western EU state at this point.
What's the deal with not accepting that Ireland is a part of Europe, anyways?
hate to break it to you pal but Irish "culture" has been white culture for some time now
Do you mean because whites have been there for thousands of years or do you mean that the cultural genocide by Anglo-America is completed?
cultural genocide by the Brits followed by attained whiteness by the Irish people. true irish or celtic culture is more or less dead and buried, attained whiteness was the nail in the coffin. not trying to be like boohoo this privilege sucks or anything but that destruction is a tragedy. for a time we held a unique position in the racial hierarchy of the empire - mainly treated like a colony all the way up to early 20th century but on the other hand - for one example - we were never subject to conscription resulting in mass death like the African colonies of the time. but we were also not (yet) a white dominion like Australia or Canada who were permitted to sort out the conscription issue themselves.
It's interesting that you advocate for that. I suppose it shows how material benefits are the most important base.
My culture is getting americanized a lot and I hate it and resist it.
But we're not white so we're not getting "attained whiteness" as you call it.
My superiority complex over you is based on having a better culture.
you met like two americans and generalized to the whole population... cool. America sucks, yes, but europe is not fundamentally better. It's dictatorship of the bourgeoisie all the way down and if you delude yourself into thinking it's different... bad things that way lie.
In hindsight, I feel like the original comment should've struck me as more reactionary than it did.
you met like two americans and generalized to the whole population… cool.
wrong
It’s dictatorship of the bourgeoisie all the way down
I said that. If you didn't read my comment no right to reply.
You didn't really, you said some vaguely-left-lib talking points about neoliberalism and "inefficiency, corruption, vested interests", and that your gov't was "10%" better.
If you didn't consider the USA and its people to be fundamentally different and worse than your country, you wouldn't be making this kind of tired hate post over mostly meaningless gripes. You met some shitty americans. Haven't we all?
If you didn’t consider the USA and its people to be fundamentally different and worse than your country, you wouldn’t be making this kind of tired hate post over mostly meaningless gripes.
But I do so I did.
The very first thing I said was "I am an anti-American hate account". If you didn’t read my comment no right to reply.
The very first thing I said was "I am an anti-American hate account"
you could have hated america for better reasons, lord knows there are lifetimes worth of reasons to, but you're just a reactionary instead
What of the witty tounge tho? Where's that?
Your culture was made out of plastic fifty years ago.
That's the thing, right? When people say "American culture", what they really mean is essentially "lowest-common-denominator American culture", which is itself a fancy way of saying "whatever the least marginalized Seppo jackass approves of that hasn't (yet) become global culture".
You absolutely could find hundreds or thousands of years of tradition, mythology, and landscape, as well as quality banter, within the borders of Seppoland, but you would just not find any of that labeled as "American" culture — you could even find culture in Seppoland that is new, yet also decidedly not plastic, but which would again not be labeled as "American" culture. Because the nationality generally pointed to by the term "American" is a colonial identity, anything that goes against colonization is not allowed, and would not allow itself, to be given that label. "American" culture has a prudish, puritan heart in a thick coat of cultural theft and bastardization and fabrication under capitalism, that must, like capitalism itself, continually expand through yet more theft and yet more plastic junk until it cannot sustain itself anymore.
The amount of things you could call "real" American culture that would remain if you took away all of the theft and junk, would be absolutely negligible, and would not fit together into anything cohesive and comprehensive; on top of this, Seppoland's cultural imperialism, and the inevitable march of technological progress, has left so many originally "American" things as part of essentially "world culture"; and on top of this still, a fair amount of the "real" American culture is just not particularly salvageable given the wretchedness of Seppoland in general.
All of this has honestly fucked with me as an Anglo-American born and raised and still living in Europe, because while I am treated as an immigrant's child, as I should be... The children of immigrants from other countries actually have those thousands of years of culture to fall back on for an identity, whereas I have fuck all. So I'm basically pushed by everyone around me to identify with a nationality without any real substance, like an ethnic null pointer error — and I've spent my life basically trying to figure out how exactly to make that work, for better and for worse. This is actually a big part of why I am so opposed to Seppoland's cultural imperialism, and admire your work a lot, albeit critically.
Edit: To be specific I think you are often poor on racial issues, that you tend to be opinionated and over-extrapolate from your own very limited perspective in a very unhelpful way. So it would do you a lot of good to be more inquisitive about racism in both Europe and Seppoland.
Edit 2: This thread has made me think considerably less of you and your potential for growth. Perhaps I should ask Hexbear to set up its own version of NoYank.
