https://archive.ph/i3X1L

  • chungusamonugs [he/him]
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    13 hours ago

    Back in the day there was a key that you turn and starts your car. Easy to steal. So manufacturers created keys with 4 rows of pins in the ignition. Hard to steal if you don't know what you're doing.

    Then they moved to inductive transponder keys. Also not really an issue, but not as reliable as the older style keys.

    Then some sick fucks said "why not make the transponder on the FUCKING KEY FOB" instead of the car itself which has a giant lead acid battery with millions of amp hours and here we are i-love-not-thinking

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      12 hours ago

      Techbros sometimes want to change things because they convince themselves that all changes are smart and cool and "disruptive" without knowing why things were the way they were in the first place. bazinga

  • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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    14 hours ago

    A couple years back there was a thing where you could hotwire some Kia models just by jamming a usb plug into a thing on the steering column. Glad to see the brand identity still going strong.

    • DengistDonnieDarko [none/use name]
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      edit-2
      13 hours ago

      that's how my car got stolen!

      when you take the ignition protector off, there's a small square piece of metal that you can put a USB plug onto, or just use a set of pliers or something. then, simply press in and turn like an actual key, and presto, you now own a car.

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    • Dem Bosain@midwest.social
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      13 hours ago

      It didn't necessarily have to be a USB plug, that was just a convenient device because it was the right shape and size. A large flat screwdriver would work just as well.

      • LanyrdSkynrd [comrade/them, any]
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        6 hours ago

        Yeah, it was just Kia cheaping out by not having an immobilizer. They saved at the very most $100 a car(probably more like $40) by skipping a basic security feature invented in 1985.

    • ihaveibs [he/him]
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      13 hours ago

      Still very much an ongoing thing that they will face basically no repercussions for

      • Zvyozdochka [she/her, comrade/them]
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        17 hours ago

        Probably ships with OpenSSL and/or OpenSSH. Buying a cheap CH341A programmer off of Aliexpress is a lot of fun because you can actually dump the firmware from like 95% of these things with a $5 tool and poke around/reverse engineer them and do some fun things with that knowledge.

    • Boredom [none/use name]
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      18 hours ago

      The counter revolution will probably be accompanied by the government killing every spouse or parent of someone too busy to cook on a thursday by blowing them up right after popping in pizza pockets.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    18 hours ago

    The bazinga shit is just about mandatory whether people want it or not. The real inevitabilism is a matter of market manipulation by the ruling class, eliminating choices that don't contribute to the real profit motive: data gathering and aggregation.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      17 hours ago

      But they're gathering the data to sell to use on the other guy's Bazinga thing, now advertising has mostly collapsed. It's like a city amateur theatre community, no one actually see the shows that aren't in them, they're just passing the same sad $20 note around in a circle. A fully closed bazinga loop that produces nothing, not even useless stuff.

      • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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        12 hours ago

        A fully closed bazinga loop that produces nothing, not even useless stuff.

        yeah, that's the american economy

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    17 hours ago

    Oh great, this totally won't get somebody hurt or killed. Good job, guys!

  • Arthur Besse@lemmy.ml
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    17 hours ago

    https://archive.ph/i3X1L

    for anyone who doesn't want to solve the captcha, that's an archive of https://www.wired.com/story/kia-web-vulnerability-vehicle-hack-track

    ...which contains a summary of what is in the researchers' post about it here: https://samcurry.net/hacking-kia