• freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    It's not an alliance. An alliance is an agreement to cooperate in mortal conflict.

    NATO is a transnational nuclear military organization that operates outside the accountability structures of the nation-state.

  • Syldon@feddit.uk
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    11 months ago

    What aggressive act has NATO done?

    AFAIK NATO has never started a conflict. It has reacted to some already in progress, but it has never initiated any military invasion since its inception.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      11 months ago

      Invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan come to mind. The fact that you don't know about these wars of aggression NATO is responsible for is frankly incredible.

      • Syldon@feddit.uk
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        11 months ago

        Yugoslavia was an ongoing civil war, and was a humanitarian intervention only. NATO positioned themselves between the factions to prevent any further conflicts arising. NATO were criticised for not participating in stopping some of the atrocities at the time.

        Libya was in response to a UN resolution regarding the conflict already ongoing within Libya.

        Syria had a civil war running for years prior to US intervention. ISIS decided Syria was destabilized so much that it decided to form a self made country there. It was because of ISIS that some NATO countries intervened.

        Afghanistan was a US led initiative that included a lot of NATO countries over its period, but was not initiated by NATO. It was in response to a cumulation of events, the penultimate was the 911 attacks in New York. The initial attacks were US, UK, Canada, NZ, Germany, Italy and the Arab NA. So no it was not a NATO attack, and no it was not initiated by any NATO state.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
          hexagon
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          11 months ago

          NATO intervention in Yugoslavia was not authorized by the UN and goes against international law.

          Libya was in response to a UN resolution regarding the conflict already ongoing within Libya.

          Libya was an invasion of a sovereign country.

          Syria had a civil war running for years prior to US intervention. ISIS decided Syria was destabilized so much that it decided to form a self made country there. It was because of ISIS that some NATO countries intervened.

          That is not a justification for NATO to invade a sovereign country.

          Afghanistan was a US led initiative that included a lot of NATO countries over its period, but was not initiated by NATO. It was in response to a cumulation of events, the penultimate was the 911 attacks in New York. The initial attacks were US, UK, Canada, NZ, Germany, Italy and the Arab NA. So no it was not a NATO attack, and no it was not initiated by any NATO state.

          Nice word salad that doesn't change the fact that NATO attacked Afghanistan and abused the people of the country for two decades.

          All of these are examples of US invading countries, and massacring over 6 million people in the process. Anybody who claims that NATO is a defensive alliance is a morally bankrupt and deeply dishonest individual.

          edit: hilarious to see NATO chuds downvoting basic facts about the situation. NATO is an aggressive alliance that murdered millions of people around the world, and people whitewashing this are utterly deplorable scumbags.

          • Syldon@feddit.uk
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            11 months ago

            Nice word salad that doesn’t change the fact that NATO attacked Afghanistan and abused the people of the country for two decades.

            Many countries were involved with Afghanistan and as I said it was in response to an attack on US soil. The rest is just gibberish and ignores the fact that there was an ongoing conflict before any NATO country intervened. No one can deny that mistakes were made in the handling or the initiatives involved, but this is not due to NATO attacking another nation to start a conflict.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
              hexagon
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              11 months ago

              Hey, quick question there, why would there be an attack on US soil. was that in response to anything by any chance?

              I love how you paint NATO invasions into sovereign countries where NATO murdered millions of people as woopies daisy mistakes as opposed to wars of aggression that they are. You're exposing yourself as a truly deplorable human being here.

              • Syldon@feddit.uk
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                11 months ago

                Countries have been killing each other since their inception. Again this is not NATO that is individual countries.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
                  hexagon
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                  11 months ago

                  NATO invaded these countries. Get that through your head. These were NATO missions, it's not just individual countries. You're either a liar or an ignoramus. Either way I'm done talking to you.

                  no amount of downvotes will wash the blood of your hands, if you support NATO you're a genocidal piece of shit, and you gotta live with that