Trans Rights are Human Rights
Edit:
I was angry when I made this post. I should have cooled off first but I didn’t, and I apologize for that. Though that does not change the reason for this post, just the way I’m gonna say it:
I’m not, and I don’t think anyone else is, upset if someone doesn’t want to set a pronoun. The anger came from the comments on the other post, the reaction of some people who stated they didn’t care about the issue, but also cared enough to complain about the fact that it was brought up.
They cared that they were being bothered but did not care to show solidarity.
I think that’s supremely fucked up. I know what it’s like to be on the other side of that cruel apathy, and I will not stand to see it directed at my comrades.
this site is pretty supportive. Almost every single post I see has pronoun flair. Don't escalate if you don't have to. People are watching how we act to each other.
Yeah, and acting in zealous and extreme solidarity with our trans comrades is exactly how we should act towards one another. I agree with @QuillQuote that if somebody looks at that post and goes "hmmmm, they care too much about pronouns here, I'd better leave" then I don't want them on this site. Losing transphobes is a feature, not a bug.
I'm not going to participate in increasing the volume of this fight.
And the pronoun flairs are a good feature, but it does not make sense to assume that everybody who doesn't use it is indifferent or worse with regards to trans rights.
Any personal information one might offer about oneself, including preferred pronouns, must be strictly voluntary. There are myriad reasons one might withhold this information, and most of them are not indifference or disdain for Trans people.
Perhaps new users should default to "unspecified." This is different from "they/them" because it specifically means this information has been withheld.
I don’t think I follow, how is posting this an escalation and who would be watching that would be put off by saying do what you can to support your comrades/ TERFs fuck off?
"get the fuck off our site" would be an escalation. The people watching are from I dunno /r/dankleft and chud wreckers. Again, nearly every post I see has prononun flair. I think we should really try to minimize the amount of yelling we do at other users.
Yeah that’s fair, should have worded it more cooly
because there's already multiple threads about this and it's stirring up more controversy.
Stirring up controversy?
Suppose I should stop saying ACAB lest I stir up controversy among my friends and family
do whatever you want. this makes us look bad though
To who? Why?
I do not understand why taking about something important to the community and that clearly needs to be talked about is bad
because it's pointless infighting. and it's pointless infighting that's already happening in multiple spaces.
How is it pointless?
because you can ban people who are being transphobic already. this is the definition of pointless.
What about the people who are only reacting the way they are because of brain worms they simply never noticed because no one ever pointed it out and helped them work through it to grow as a person?
What about our whole purpose of helping raise consciousness and solidarity?
Not taking about stuff is detrimental to our community. We need to have these discussions because if we don’t how else do you expect anyone to learn if it falls outside their lives experience?
There were some people banned, but plenty of people who were cold to the idea or conceptualized of the ask in a reactionary, narcissistic way, or didn’t comment at all but are reading the discussion and learning a lot they’d never thought about before.
This shit matters.
sure it's helpful to discuss this, that's why people are discussing it in the other threads. this post in particular is the pointless infighting i was referring to
You’re right, I was upset and let it get the better of me. But despite the poor tone I set some good discussion is taking place here at least
Sorry about that