i was trying to be tactful, respectful, and understanding by posting this thread for ppl to ask questions abt our beautiful hexbear. i didnt get any questions.
it took 4 hours for Ada, their admin, to respond. she locked the thread shortly after responding
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her reply above was disheartening, as she seemed willing to work with us previously. equating ableism to a dunk tank post is just vile. and claiming the transphobia in 196 is “a specific event that occurred around a month ago” proves she didnt read any of our concerns. i didnt know abt that event, im sure most of us here dont. our concerns are rooted in the chasers of 196 (non-trans ppl who fetishize trans ppl). someone replied to her saying we were “concern-trolling”. is it that unbelievable that we care abt not having bigotry in the same space as us. i want to grab some of these users by the shoulders, shake them, and yell, “WE ARE BEING GENUINE. WE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT PROVIDING A SAFE, SUPPORTIVE SPACE FOR ALL PEOPLE, AND YOUR COMMUNITY IS ALIENATING TRANS AND DISABLED PEOPLE!!”
responses were not very positive of us
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they think this is a bit! lol, lmao even! this whole thing has me 
this chain of comments particularly upset me
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“its a troll”. my pronouns are right next to my name, and “it” isnt one of them (even tho thats 100% a valid pronoun to prefer)
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this one had me fully 
and the cherry on top warranted its own post https://hexbear.net/post/373453
What craziness. I wish Lemmygrad would defederate from them as it’s clearly used by a bunch of uber-conservative asses alone.
We don't need to, they already defederated from us without ever talking to us.
If they think bearing with the hex was bad, wait until they get us if they ever decide to try again. We're not half as patient as hexbear is with liberals, though I appreciate their effort to make this federation work with blahaj
Oh, I thought they were cause I saw comments from them on Hexbear and didn’t know I could see the comments like that if we had. Thanks for clearing that up
I'm not entirely sure how federation/defederation works since it's one way, from what I understand the posts that were federated remain, and one of the two parties can still comment and be seen, but the other can't? It's not super well documented yet
the way it works is that blahaj (or any other instance that's defederated lemmygrad) won't federate any of its posts/comments made on comms hosted on its instance to lemmygrad, so we won't see those, but if they comment or post on a comm that's hosted on an instance that still federates with lemmygrad (eg. hexbear), hexbear will take that post/comment and federate it to every instance it's federated with, it doesn't check to see if the instance of that post/comment defederates from of the instances it sends it out to, it sends them all out, and so we're able to see it, unless we also defederated the original instance.
Strange but, I've seen stranger things
Ah, I see. It looks like I can comment on there so maybe the defederation is one sided?
we might still aggregate their posts since we don't block them but I think nobody but people browsing from lemmygrad can see those comments.
Oh, that could be the case. Thanks for explaining
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As someone that created an account here after the drama on blahaj, I'm disappointed to see so many sweeping generalizations of the people that used the instance
I don’t think people would be doing if users of that instance weren’t upvoting reactionary conservative comments. Once Blahaj stops acting like a bunch of conservatives people will stop thinking it’s an alt-right instance
Do you think every blahaj user upvoted those kinds of comments?
I didn’t see many downvotes on any of them nor were they being removed by mods
downvotes are disabled on blahaj (and on hexbear)
Why aren’t comments going against them? The only thing I can think is that Blahaj is filled with reactionary alt-right
I don't know specifically what comments you're referring to. I can't reply to everything on blahaj. I don't think this conversation is going anywhere so I'm just going to block and move on. Take care
there was no need for this, just ask to disengage and report them if they don't respect it???
Or, if disengagement is what is wanted, they could also just do that without a comment. Disengagement really only takes one person. It’s not like I was following them around commenting on every post or something like that
it's a thing on hexbear, you specifically need to comment and say you're disengaging
you don't have to but it helps if the topic is heated or if someone is replying to you from multiple places in the thread.
Eh, even if you can disengage like that, I’d rather her block me. I don’t care to engage with someone who I will disagree with like that
I dunno that just seems a little harsh I don't think the argument was that bad
Not sure why it matters, but sure I'll use that. Disengage please
So you defend far-right instances, get called out and then just say you will block? lmao
no, she's saying there's still some good people there. it's not a defense of the instance, just some of the users. I know they exist because they were getting heated with the 196 mod in the "hexbear defederated" thread, forcing that mod to revise history and pretend they were a smolbean that did nothing wrong. I think they'll be driven off the instance, personally, as the mod/admin teams are at best enabling a cryptofash mod to go unchecked.
nah there were plenty of trans people on blahaj that are just looking for a nice place to be, but blahaj is very hostile due to the amount of chasers that got invited on. best to be understanding. regardless the majority of trans people are socialist, so please keep that in mind when interacting too
I suppose. I’m still extremely suspicious of that instance due, especially, to this post as it doesn’t exactly seem like a non-reactionary instance
no, of course there are plenty of blahaj users who are good people
Thanks, I checked it out a bit. Looking forward to seeing more posts populate.
I'm still not sure if I'm going to stay, hexbear seems a little chaotic at best coming from blahaj, and a lot of the users are pretty aggressive. But I'm here for now
35 posts, 200 comments in a day is pretty good, but those are rookie numbers 🤔 gonna be planning some coordinated campaigns to up the amount of trans people on this site.
we are aggressive against reactionary behavior. but typically we are polite and respectful when having conversations with leftists who are posting in good faith
A lot of the aggressiveness I'm referring to is directed at blahaj users in general, not any specific users that have interacted in bad faith. Just people here calling all of blahaj conservatives or other badmouthing.
I'm just saying as someone coming from blahaj I see a lot of hostility that feels directed at me
yeah that is unfair. but there is that old adage: if nine people are eating at a table, a nazi joins, and nobody leaves, then those are 10 nazis eating together
i have only seen the behavior ur talking abt from lemmygrad users. they are sometimes harsher on liberals than us
i can promise none of it is directed at you. you came over here so you obviously recognized how blahaj was problematic. any blahaj users who migrate here are welcome