• stink@lemmygrad.ml
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    25 days ago

    Someone make an "israeli interference in the 1948-2024 United States election" please!

  • Redcuban1959 [any]
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    25 days ago

    So the US election is just a proxy conflict between Iran (Democrats) and Russia (Republicans), meanwhile China is just shitposting?

  • Large Bullfrog@lemmygrad.ml
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    25 days ago

    Honestly, if there is anyone that would have any real incentive to influence US elections it'd be other bourgeoisie countries like the EU that fear being abandoned/cannibalized/sacrificed by a more nationalistic US.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        25 days ago

        I still remember the world description sidebar in original Cyberpunk 2020 core manual, it went like that "Forget the Pacific century, now is the time of new Europe" and this was one of the most funny things in entire book and it keeps getting funnier and funnier ever since.

  • Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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    25 days ago

    "Your government lies to you and wants war with foreign nations to enrich their capital owning class including politicians who are "legally" bribed by those capitalists."

    Here's a crazy idea... stop lying and stop funding endless wars to profit the most evil pieces of shit on earth?

    If a person was doing a shitty thing, I dunno, let's say they get drunk and hit their wife a lot. And a neighbor starts telling the other people in town "Hey, you know Tom gets drunk every night and abuses his wife?" Is the correct response to

    A. Make Tom stop beating his wife

    or

    B. Shoot the neighbor, shoot the wife, make Tom the mayor

    Liberals reflexively smash B. Everything they call "propaganda" could be neutralized with finger snaps (aka presidential executive orders or simply not sending bombs...). Or most things anyway.

    I don't think most people fall for this either. Only the most reclusive, fully bought-in, bougie-ass motherfuckers who not only love to deny genocide but openly support it while acting like the horrors unleashed by Israel/US are natural disasters and "nothing can be done. But it's so tragic!" seem to believe this bullshit.

    "Normal people" either don't pay attention, and the media makes that incredibly easy by never speaking about it, or know these demons are all lying pieces of shit. Thus, the popularity of people like Trump who exploit this inherent knowledge in people's minds for his own evil ends (the same or similar enough ends, so, that's really great and cool...)

  • FortifiedAttack [any]
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    25 days ago

    Please someone make an exact copy of one of these with the title

    "British interference in the 2024 United States elections"

    and link the Labour party stuff on it.

      • Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml
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        24 days ago

        Democrat voters have been insisting since 2016 that Hillary losing to Trump was the doing of Russian hackers and Chinese shills, and not the inevitable result of putting a candidate with the charisma of a shoe against a person with the personality and rhetoric of a used cars salesman.

  • Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml
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    25 days ago

    I find it really hard to believe that three separate countries are so interested in US elections

    • darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml
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      24 days ago

      Well given it's the reigning hegemon I'd say they are and need to be. That's the unfortunate fact. If the US wants other countries less interested in it maybe they could try not trying to dominate the world and do constant regime change, destabilization, sanctions, etc and let other countries develop in peace but they can't and there are apparent differences in who the main enemy is and how to approach that between the parties.

      I doubt the Chinese or Russians are interfering but the Iranians are genuinely still furious at Trump for the killing of Soleimani and I actually do believe they'd probably like to kill him if it wouldn't cause a war and certainly to prevent his return as they think that Biden/Democrats who gave them the nuclear agreement are more reasonable and that they could still reintegrate with the west.

      BUT I doubt their "interference" admits to anything. It's nothing, a couple of small, easily detected bot operations, maybe a hack of the campaign, a drop in the pond compared to the average US NGO "civil society fostering" in a given former soviet state and their level of societal interference even in hardened countries like China that take serious steps to curtail it.

  • RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml
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    25 days ago

    Yes, yes, yes Wikipedia is absolutely garbage and all that.

    Laughing fucking my ass off???? Once I read that in my head, I just couldn't stop laughing at that.

  • Raphaël A. Costeau@lemmy.ml
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    24 days ago

    Amerikkkans are a bunch of pussies. All it takes is a little propaganda for them to accuse others of "intervention". Imagine if these "others" did a tenth of what the US did in Latin America.