Thank you for the very detailed response. This is a discussion about piracy. It’s interesting to speak of coping and projection. You know a lot of the most hateful homophobes keep coming out of the closet as gay? I think this kind of hate is very prevalent in our society. Basically you hate that somebody who doesn’t share your moral restrictions, who is out there enjoying life without a care in the world. A kind of moral jealousy. “I have to live with this burden and it’s unfair for somebody else to live without it”. I said it in my original comment and now I will emphasize it in response to your wall of text. Your contempt for me is the same as closet gay homophobes. In this analogy my love for cheese is gay sex, and you think you hate it because your religion (your moral code) is correct, but you actually hate it because you are deprived of it, and it’s unfair that I can enjoy it without guilt. This brings us full circle to the original question about why I think some people view piracy negatively.

It seems you think that all non-vegans must be ignorant. “If only 90% of the population would read the scientific literature or if they were aware of how their animal products came to market, they’d all be vegan”. I am aware of the indirect consequences of my actions and I carry on so I must be some kind of monster. Clearly I am not your brother in Christ, rather a spawn of Satan or perhaps worse. Perhaps I’m just a creature of this earth. A natural consequence of everything up until now.

It is absolutely futile. Being a vegan is like recycling. If it makes you feel better about your life, good. But anybody with the privilege to debate such things, with the worldwide industrial grocery selection to even contemplate veganism, has a huge wake of environmental destruction associated with existing. All the fuel that’s been burned, all of the lumber, loss of habitat for your dwelling. Every time you bathe a freshwater fish or amphibian dries up. Don’t worry about it. I forgive you. It’s not your fault. It’s not your burden. You are a worthy allocation of this planets resources. Thank you for your insight.

    • Angel [any]
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      25 days ago

      Woah, calm down.

      This is just a goofy ass response I got from arguing with a carnist; we don't have to do a whole ass cringy carnist coping session here. You don't have to play the same role as this bozo.

      The appeals to futility and false equivalences are reeking of the exact same shit this guy was on about, and I don't care to hear it, even from a Hexbear who wants validation for their self-aware hypocrisy in supporting animal exploitation while knowing that it's morally unjustifiable. Also, yes, you're a self-aware hypocrite, but that honestly doesn't excuse carnism. Many other Hexbears express similar sentiments, though. I didn't want to say it, but you kind of invited me to say it.

      You don't have to turn this into an entire cope. Laugh at this copypasta because he's more silly than most other carnists, and yes, that includes virtually every carnist on this instance.