• GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
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        20 days ago

        I personally don't share the same definition of e-waste. Having to install Linux, a custom ROM or modded software to make the machine fully usable doesn't make it complete e-waste imo. Conputer users should have technical knowledge to do stuff like that.

        • Telorand@reddthat.com
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          20 days ago

          That's the point. Most users don't know how to do that, can't be bothered to learn, so this laptop would have been e-waste under most other circumstances.

          • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            20 days ago

            I think their confusion comes from OPs title.

            Why is it "e-waste go brrrrrrr" when OP is presumably saying they're keeping this laptop out of the machine? _ machine go brr is a dumb meme in the first place, people using it the wrong way makes it even dumberer.

          • GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
            ·
            20 days ago

            Yes but if a person uses a computer and doesn't want to learn stuff, issues that come from it are (at least partially) their fault.

            • Telorand@reddthat.com
              ·
              20 days ago

              Sure, but that's kind of a nonsequitur to the question of whether this would have ended up as e-waste.

              A: Would this end up as e-waste?
              
              B: It's the end-users' fault if it does.
              
              A: Okay, so...would this end up as e-waste?
              

              We don't literally know, because we can't predict the future, but we can be reasonably certain that old tech like this laptop would have become e-waste in the hands of your average user, regardless of whether they should have been expected to take the time to learn how to prevent that or not.

        • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]
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          20 days ago

          Most corporations are not going to do that because they often standardize around products with known solutions for management that come with service guarantees. No one wants to support a small fleet of aging hardware running an os outside the dominant platform.

  • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    20 days ago

    i've only owned one macbook in my life and it too came from the e-waste bin and it worked well for about 5 years.

    that's also where i got a lot of hardware that i still use to this day.

  • Eugenia@lemmy.ml
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    20 days ago

    I've been running Mint and Debian on old hardware too. A Macbook Air 2011 and one from 2015, and a Mac Mini 2014. Mint works great on them AS LONG AS you have at least 4 GB of RAM, especially since it can install the broadcomm wifi driver. Lots of screenshots and images from them here: https://mastodon.social/@eugenialoli/media

      • propter_hog [any, any]
        ·
        20 days ago

        Yeah, mine was a pain in the ass. Haven't sorted it yet. Must be a different chip set.

          • propter_hog [any, any]
            ·
            20 days ago

            A few on this machine, mostly the usual "plug-n-play" suspects: openSUSE, Ubuntu, Mint, etc. I've narrowed it down to needing a specific driver which will have to be installed after the install, but I don't have an extra thumb drive for it since the one external drive I do have will have the os on it, and I just haven't been arsed to make it work on a single drive by modifying the partition to add a second one and put the driver there. It's just a pain in the ass.

            • Loucypher@lemmy.ml
              hexagon
              ·
              19 days ago

              Ouch… I had this years ago but now I am lucky as the drivers are probably embedded in the kernel

  • UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com
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    20 days ago

    I just replaced the battery in my wife's 2013 mbp. macos runs like absolute shit on it, so i'm excited to flash linux. I like fedora but thinking i'll start with LDME

  • RoabeArt [he/him]
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    20 days ago

    I have Batocera (Linux-based emulator platform) on a 2011 Mac Mini.

    The only caveat is its weak integrated graphics chip that struggles to emulate fifth generation (PSX, N64, etc) and newer consoles, but since I pretty much only play 16 bit and older it's been a solid machine.

  • Andrzej3K [none/use name]
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    edit-2
    20 days ago

    I'm currently daily driving a 2011 MacBook Pro running Arch, and it does surprisingly well. I mean, the screen is a weird resolution, the battery life sucks, and it gets very hot, but other than that ...

    • ILikePigeons@lemmy.ml
      ·
      19 days ago

      Mine is 2009 15 inch model. I love it and I have been using it for more than a year. However, sometimes it is quite annoying to use, battery barely holds a charge, it sometimes completely freezes for around 10 seconds (with a lot of ata errors, I am assuming that the SATA cable is the culprit), fan are rattling and Nouveau sometimes breaks itself. The problem is that replacing all these parts would get really expensive, at least if I bought most of them from iFixit.

  • Panos Alevropoulos@lemmy.ml
    ·
    20 days ago

    I recently flashed Mint on a MacBook Air 2012, but WiFi is really unstable and slow. Probably a driver issue. I had worse luck with Debian and Fedora.

    • ADandHD@lemmy.sdf.org
      ·
      20 days ago

      Had the same issue on MacBook pro 2012. Solution for me was to use broadcom-wl-dkms in case that might help you as well

      • nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml
        ·
        20 days ago

        I tried it but I got tired of overheating and constant fan spinning, I tried to go the vanilla route then with mbfan (or whatever it's called) and I was never able to reproduce a level of quietness comparable to MacOS so I went back.

    • Loucypher@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
      ·
      20 days ago

      a simple install of the good old LMDE, everything worked FLAWLESSLY out of the box. It runs even smoother than vanilla Debian

      • edric@lemm.ee
        ·
        20 days ago

        Did you have to do any special configuration, or was it a seamless installation just like a non-mac laptop?

      • Telorand@reddthat.com
        ·
        20 days ago

        I've been going with Spiral Linux lately when I need a VM for something (works really well in a VM), but I might have to give LMDE a try!

        • Loucypher@lemmy.ml
          hexagon
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          edit-2
          20 days ago

          it you are looking for an OS that just runs, doesn't receive tons of updates and stay stable as a rock... LMDE will make you fall in love

    • Fonzie!@ttrpg.network
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      20 days ago

      It's an older Intel macbook, those are just like most Windows laptops.

      If it was one of the newer macbook M's, it would've been quite difficult at least.

      • RoabeArt [he/him]
        ·
        20 days ago

        I remember when Apple first switched to using Intel processors, people talked about being able to install Linux and other operating systems easily. I guess Apple didn't like that.