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Whatever happens i just hope they kick the Greens to the curb, they've been absolutely insufferable.
Seriously, and it does look like the greens are collapsing at this point.
I guess the strategy will something be like "AFD is bad" and "People voting for AFD are garbage". Die Linke is a kind of joke, I don't even want to thing about their youth organisation.
I get the impression that German libs are even more delusional than the ones in US. Their meltdown is going to be incredible to watch.
Oh yeah, people here are living in a serious bubble and they are in for a big shock. They are still in denial about the deindustrialization.
What i've been hearing most from people around me is a belief that Germany is too big to fail. It's just too rich, too big of an economy, "we'll be fine" they say, they've had it so good for so long they simply can't imagine anything else.
I notice this to be a general trend in the west. People who've never lived through a collapse have a hard time understanding how fragile their systems are in practice.
Sometimes even people who have lived through a collapse don't understand it. My family lived through the collapse of socialism in eastern Europe in the 80s and 90s, and yet since moving to Germany my parents have fully bought into the dominant ideology here, they listen to all the liberal mainstream media and it's turned them into total turbolibs. When you bring up the possibility of a serious crash because of the energy/deindustrialization crisis they say that can't happen in democratic countries like Germany, it only happened in Romania because it was a communist dictatorship. And it was supposedly good that it happened because that was "the market correcting itself", there was "too much" industry and building under communism.
What's funny is that the part of my family that stayed in Romania are not buying the western liberal line to the same extent. They're split between nostalgia for communism in my grandparents' generation and full on petit bourgeois reactionary brainworms in the generation after them, especially in the more well off ones, complaining about welfare, criminal ethnic minorities, and adopting all the standard American conservative talking points ("woke" this, "woke" that, trans panic, too much racial/gender diversity on TV, etc.).
Really shows how much impact media has on the views people hold. Next few years are going to be very interesting to watch as the liberal order starts visibly collapsing. I predict that we'll be seeing a reverse of the 90s where people in the west lose faith in their system, while China will become increasingly more confident in theirs.
It's really something to see an area decline in your lifetime
Like the poster above,I'm from Romania,born after the fall of communism and I actively remember there being more people in my town when I was young (I'm still living here for the time being)
Now,to be fair,it's a smaller town,less populated area,but both me and my mom who now works and practically lives in Norway can recall a time when there were more people in the city
When I was born we had almost 100k people,the biggest recorded population in our history,and now we're at something below 65k,it's really wild,I can recall the town being a little more lively,but now it's not empty,but just...it feels like something is missing
That must be pretty grim to watch. I imagine that's probably happening all over Europe now as cost of living keep climbing and opportunities become scarce. People who can end up leaving for greener pastures.
New elections probably in march. AFD is with 17℅ the second strongest party in the moment
Given how new the party is, that's really impressive, they might even climb to 15% or so by March. Would be great if they displaced CDU.
eh... sometimes new parties get a huge election boost, because people are just saturated with mainstream parties. But it tends to be short lived. They may disappear as quickly as they came to be. If they get a good result, they will need to work a lot to consolidate the party and its electorate.
Wagenknecht is a pretty seasoned politician, so I don't expect this will be a fad. It's also a unique moment in history. German centre is collapsing, people are mad because the standard of living is unravelling, and it's becoming clear that the US is not an ally. All these factors combined are creating a huge opportunity for the socialist left.
Along with the loss of Harris in the US. Is it possible that this loss too can finally put an end to the war in Ukraine?
