I am an Amerikkan weighing my options on where to flee to. China is an option and i was wondering how much mandarin to learn to get into the country, where I can continue my education in the language there (because the best place to learn a new language is a country that speaks it) if i should be fluent before i move there, that's fine too. i would do literally anything to leave this shithole. TIA comrades and good day.

  • LesbianLiberty [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    There are various HSK levels you can attain, I reccomend taking a look at these and evaluating what career you may be able to take to immigrate. Immigration for outsiders is largely only possible through marriage or a job visa, and an employer would have to take up a pretty big hassle to hire someone from outside China. I would try and take a chinese class if possible, and try and integrate yourself with *shudder* the expat community, as they may have good tie-ins for foreigners to get a job in China.

  • pooh [she/her, any]
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    1 year ago

    AFAIK knowing Mandarin doesn't matter as much as your reason for going, and you would need a specific reason. I think generally it would need to be for work, study, or family. For work you'd need a company to hire you, study you'd need to be accepted to a Chinese university, and family you would pretty much need to be at least Chinese descent and have family in China. So, going there with the intent to stay long term wouldn't be all that easy unless you had a verified way in. I've heard a lot of people previously were able to move there to teach English, and it was pretty easy to get one of those jobs, but I'm not sure if they're still doing this at the level they were previously. Would be worth checking out at least.

  • aboriante [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Speaking Mandarin is a non-factor for visas. What you want is to have a useful skill that can gain you employment in China. The most popular (and arguably the easiest) is having education experience and a university diploma to go there and teach English.

    Don't think that means you'd be free of America forever, though. There's no path to citizenship for a white foreigner in China. But you can make a long-term career there and live very, very well.

    That being said, Mandarin is super useful for living in China. It solves a whole lot of problems in daily life. And if you really learn it to a degree that you can work in the language, it'll open up a ton of better-paid employment opportunities.

    My recommendation is for you to go visit as a tourist. See for yourself what the country's like. It's a wonderful place but it can also be a real challenge as a foreigner because of cultural differences. Best to experience it yourself.

    • blakeus12 [they/them, he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      thanks, i a still in high school so my plan was to go to university there for civil engineering and find a job after getting my degree.