I was part of the group that got banned yesterday, and I need to apologize to you all.
I have seen people mention previously that sometimes mods take upvotes for agreement, but I haven't trained myself to stop the reddit habit of voting on "food for thought" things, useful-addition-to-the-conversation-but-not-my-pov posts, and placemarkers in active threads, and there aren't downvotes here to easily mark the shitty stuff I want to come back to and learn from. I should always be opening things in new tabs instead.
I foolishly upvoted this comment as a "food for thought" comment and planned to come back to the thread yesterday evening to find it and read the responses and learn from them. instead my upvote counted as agreement and got me banned, which I know is my fault for not adapting to site culture and not foreseeing how that would be interpreted.
I totally understand, feel like the worst kind of fool, and spent my ban time thinking about what a piece of shit I am. far worse than that is the thought that any of you might think I agree with that comment, so I am posting here to apologize profusely and publicly for my upvote. I'm really, truly, terribly sorry, and idk what to do to about it except fuck off and try not to be such a fuckhead in the future.
explanation (not excuse) for those who care to understand why
I live in Ohio, which is immersed in the kind of chud culture that comment was talking about – I see my formerly borderline leftist little brother slipping into it, and it kills me. it's a point of view I remember seeing a lot when I was in DSA and not liking then, but I lack the information and wisdom to effectively articulate my problems with it. I very much want to understand what to do about it and how to talk about this stuff with people who believe it, but I get why it was offensive and shitty to mark it for myself in a way that would default mean "this is good" to others instead of pushing back on it at all or just opening it in a new tab to look at later. I'm very sorry about doing that.
I didn't open it in a new tab because I'm pushing triple digits of tabs open and knew it would be easy to find later because the Amber bot was inflating the comment activity. I keep forgetting to be judicious with my upvotes because I'm AuDHD and unlearning a decade of reddit habits is hard.
you didn't know that was why I upvoted it, it just looked to you like a bunch of your alleged comrades liked that post, and I was one of them. I hope you can forgive me, but I understand if it made you think differently about me. I get it, and I'm just really, really sorry.
as soon as I figured out that I was banned and why, I sent a version of this via DM from my old account to an em_poc user who is very near and dear to my heart, but I don't feel right only apologizing to one person when so many of you could have been hurt by my upvote, hence this post. I'm sorry that my apology to the rest of you wasn't that immediate, but I was worried that posting it from my old account would be seen as ban evasion and make my contrition seem insincere.
I appreciate very much the kindness and compassion so many of you have shown me, and it is devastating to know that I have repaid it in this way.
I'm very, very, very sorry.
please heap your scorn and excoriation here.
Based on the comments on this thread, seems like there are two possible solutions:
One, make all upvotes public. This allows users who upvoted something to be called out, grilled and a chance to explain themselves. Also helps avoid misunderstanding/accidental clicks. Users who have been complained by enough people can then be subjected to a struggle session (in a special comm, enacted as they were performed during Mao’s era where the person who possesses a deviation of thought is questioned by the masses until they break down in tears and ask for apology).
Two, remove all upvotes. Return to old style forum. Duel it out in endless chains of comments. Make your opinions known, without the luxury of hiding behind upvotes. Be a true poster. Be brave and subject your beliefs and opinions to the judgement of your peers. Stand your ground. Argue until your opponents cry for forgiveness. A true testing ground to your conviction - are you even a real Marxist if you are not prepared to be firm with your conviction to Marxist ideas?
This is where the fun begins.
I've never seen you comment outside the news megathread, and it is both an honor to see you here and also a huge embarrassment.
I'm really sorry to have been a foolish asshole who dragged things off course. I really appreciate your posts and learn a lot from them, and I am very grateful for your contributions to the site. thank you for being a huge part of what makes Hexbear unique and wonderful.
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I think this is the most achievable solution, based on what I understand of the Lemmy UI – make upvotes public to everyone, which would allow calling-out/calling-in where and when appropriate
The mod in question behaved in an inappropriate fashion that violates the code of conduct and does not reflect site norms, culture, or traditions. The mod is in the wrong and has abused their powers. The solution with lies with the mod themselves, not with the community or any of the banned individuals.
Forums also added like "Xyz found this post helpful" or "Liked this post" but it lists who it is that clicked the button and has no impact on the ordering of the comments.
Second makes more sense, the first requires the Internet forum hexbear.net to fulfill the role of a militant cadre organization
I like the second option. We removed downvotes, remove upvotes, too.