I just have to say I totally disagree with the idea that there will be a bigger conflict with China under Biden than there will be under Trump. The Republican’s view being hawkish towards China as a meaningfully successful political tactic in the way democrats don’t, Trump doesn’t give a fuck about Latin America.
Being hawkish towards China is a necessity for the US empire not a choice. This empire will always need enemies to justify their policies. Both of these people are tripping over themselves to frame the other guy as "soft on China".
Biden is also much more likely than Trump to end US support for the war in Yemen. On these issues the whole thing is mostly net neutral.
Biden has even refused to reverse the move of the US embassy to Jerusalem so I am not sure where you are getting this fever dream from. Also the war on Yemen started under Obama. Here is a right wing website talking about it:
Every democrat in the Senate voted to end the war in Yemen alongside a bunch of Republicans. Biden would end support for that.
There are a huge number of wealthier Americans that have supported democrats that want to maintain the long standing status quo re trade with China. Biden will be much more dovish on China and won't be starting any trade wars.
Except the bill passed, it's just that Trump vetoed it.
I don't know why it's hard for you to believe that the two political parties have oppositional views on foreign policy, in particular oppositional views that are both still relevant to broader empire building (where the difference is whose empire is being built).
There is a relevant geopolitical case to make about not wanting Saudi to be a complete hegemon within the middle east as it relates to the further entranchment of pax americana. The same applies with China and broader global liberalization efforts.
Except the bill passed, it’s just that Trump vetoed it.
this is precisely my point. bills make it out of congress for political theater reasons all the time in order for the president to veto it. look at all the times republicans put ACA repeal in front of Obama, then virtually collapsed trying to do the same after Trump took office.
don't confuse theater for actual commitment. Yemen started under Obama.
The house successful overrided the veto and the Senate missed it by fairly small margin of votes. There's substantial bipartisan support for ending this shit, and the killing of Jamaal Kashogi does play a meaningful role in why democrats have flipped their position on Saudi Arabia expanding their power.
Interesting, I see Biden has explicitly stated that he wants to end US support. I am not sure how they will balance this with the US-Saudi relationship. Thanks for the info. In any case, there are many ways to support wars without officially selling arms to countries. US explicitly may not have done anything in Bolivia but that does not mean that they did not have a hand in the events there.
There are a huge number of wealthier Americans that have supported democrats that want to maintain the long standing status quo re trade with China. Biden will be much more dovish on China and won’t be starting any trade wars.
Sure but there are already moves to shift manufacturing to other countries like India and Vietnam. There are already hundreds of military bases around China whose explicit purpose is to be able to counter China and even block import of oil and other essentials to China if need be. The belt and road initiative is in many ways just to circumvent this. Sure Biden is not gonna start a trade war but he definitely is going to set the stage for the new cold war against China. That is non-negotiable and that will not depend on who the president is. Also a trade war is exactly the kind of stupid move which is not effective but just gums up the works in the system.
Nah a trade war is exactly the sort of thing that's effective, it's just a negative incentive for companies to move from China to Vietnam and the like rather than a positive incentive like the TPP and other free trade deals enable.
The US under Biden will absolutely engage in geopolitical containment strategies around China, but I highly doubt that will actually manifest in any relevant way because Biden doesn't want to hurt US business interests in their country.
The US under Biden will absolutely engage in geopolitical containment strategies around China, but I highly doubt that will actually manifest in any relevant way because Biden doesn’t want to hurt US business interests in their country.
I don't know what you mean by "will not manifest in any relevant way" because a string of military bases in south east Asia sounds relevant. You can already see the pieces moving in Philippines (not saying this particular thing is unequivocally good or bad just that these forces are already in action):
Being hawkish towards China is a necessity for the US empire not a choice. This empire will always need enemies to justify their policies. Both of these people are tripping over themselves to frame the other guy as "soft on China".
Biden has even refused to reverse the move of the US embassy to Jerusalem so I am not sure where you are getting this fever dream from. Also the war on Yemen started under Obama. Here is a right wing website talking about it:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/obama-and-the-war-on-yemen/
Every democrat in the Senate voted to end the war in Yemen alongside a bunch of Republicans. Biden would end support for that.
There are a huge number of wealthier Americans that have supported democrats that want to maintain the long standing status quo re trade with China. Biden will be much more dovish on China and won't be starting any trade wars.
what politicians do when a bill has no hope of passing and what they do when it has a real chance of becoming law are two very different things
Except the bill passed, it's just that Trump vetoed it.
I don't know why it's hard for you to believe that the two political parties have oppositional views on foreign policy, in particular oppositional views that are both still relevant to broader empire building (where the difference is whose empire is being built).
There is a relevant geopolitical case to make about not wanting Saudi to be a complete hegemon within the middle east as it relates to the further entranchment of pax americana. The same applies with China and broader global liberalization efforts.
this is precisely my point. bills make it out of congress for political theater reasons all the time in order for the president to veto it. look at all the times republicans put ACA repeal in front of Obama, then virtually collapsed trying to do the same after Trump took office.
don't confuse theater for actual commitment. Yemen started under Obama.
The house successful overrided the veto and the Senate missed it by fairly small margin of votes. There's substantial bipartisan support for ending this shit, and the killing of Jamaal Kashogi does play a meaningful role in why democrats have flipped their position on Saudi Arabia expanding their power.
Interesting, I see Biden has explicitly stated that he wants to end US support. I am not sure how they will balance this with the US-Saudi relationship. Thanks for the info. In any case, there are many ways to support wars without officially selling arms to countries. US explicitly may not have done anything in Bolivia but that does not mean that they did not have a hand in the events there.
Sure but there are already moves to shift manufacturing to other countries like India and Vietnam. There are already hundreds of military bases around China whose explicit purpose is to be able to counter China and even block import of oil and other essentials to China if need be. The belt and road initiative is in many ways just to circumvent this. Sure Biden is not gonna start a trade war but he definitely is going to set the stage for the new cold war against China. That is non-negotiable and that will not depend on who the president is. Also a trade war is exactly the kind of stupid move which is not effective but just gums up the works in the system.
Nah a trade war is exactly the sort of thing that's effective, it's just a negative incentive for companies to move from China to Vietnam and the like rather than a positive incentive like the TPP and other free trade deals enable.
The US under Biden will absolutely engage in geopolitical containment strategies around China, but I highly doubt that will actually manifest in any relevant way because Biden doesn't want to hurt US business interests in their country.
I don't know what you mean by "will not manifest in any relevant way" because a string of military bases in south east Asia sounds relevant. You can already see the pieces moving in Philippines (not saying this particular thing is unequivocally good or bad just that these forces are already in action):
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/10/19/phil-o19.html
As in it won't hurt chinese economic growth, at most it will delay their attempts to take over Taiwan or something.