• Bob [he/him,he/him]
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    ive never bought the "dam he went on tucker and 'legitimized' him!!!"

    like fam, carlson is pretty legitimate to people who watch him

    if you refuse to platform greenwald, who obviously i have tons of criticisms of but is nonetheless more anti-imperial than anyone else at the intercept, then he will go to whatever is open to him

    these people dont care if its tucker or maddow or whoever, because maddow and tucker and whoever else are all the same pieces of shit

    it says more about the essential failure OR refusal to platform anti-imperial or even vaguely critical journalists by the "left" liberals in the US than it does anything about greenwald himself

    if you look at this and go "haha that greenwald what a dumbass how dare he go on tucker" then you're missing the much larger point which is that ONLY TUCKER IS GONNA PLATFORM THIS GUY

    DONT U THINK THAT MAYBE SAYS SOMETHIN

    the whole thing is a priority order issue for leftists. international issues are simply more important than domestic politics when it comes to the US, because of the US' hegemonic role in the world. that's just how it is

      • kilternkafuffle [any]
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        he aids tucker’s white nationalist narrative

        How in the world is he doing that? The clips I've seen are him yelling at Trump to pardon Snowden and pull out of Afghanistan and shit, with the refrain that it'll be popular to do so. He's selling a leftist message to a right-wing audience, which makes him a fucking hero - along with everything else awesome he's done in life.

        seems happy to do so

        Ah, yes, the known White nationalist Glenn Greenwald, merrily spreading racism once again.

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          I feel Tucker plays a lot of lefties who get shunned in the mainstream media. Notice how they're almost always on the show to talk about how bad Democrats are, and rightfully so. Only problem is, most of his viewers are being fed reasons to hate true leftist ideologies, as most of them are dumb enough to believe Biden is a communist, thus anything that would help people gets associated with their view of liberal politicians.

          Am I just babbling? Or am I saying something coherent?

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            The internal logic of what you're saying is sound - if Tucker's leftists guests were only there to smear Democrats, that would be them playing into his hand. But is that the case?

            Like, here's Jimmy Dore on Tucker and he's saying that the popular thing to do would be pass a stimulus and universal healthcare. The only mention of Democrats is to tell Trump to offer double of whatever stimulus package Nancy Pelosi offers. He's not actually attacking Democrats, he's just trying to push Republicans left on economics and war, which ultimately would make the job of progressive Democrats easier.

      • Bob [he/him,he/him]
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        carlson's entire project is entirely domestic and he only allows for greenwald's tepid but still present anti imperialism because he can weaponize it domestically

        regardless, this is to a domestic end

        greenwald's overall project is still anti imperialism pretty clearly, though, even if his specific brand of anti imperialism has its problems

        so if the net result of this is bad domestic messaging and comparatively good foreign policy messaging then uh yeah great

        anti imperialists are in short supply in the us and they'll take whatever platform they can get