This shouldn't come as a huge surprise. Meta is moving forward with their plans for Theads and the Fediverse, and their adjusted terms reflect a new impending reality for Fediverse users.
If someone had any doubts about federation with Threads, they shouldn't by now. Facebook is trying to turn Fediverse into Shittyverse and Fedizens should resist that
Defederation means you don't see their posts. It does NOT mean they can't see your posts.
I still don't think federating with them is a good idea, but defederating won't preserve privacy. It'll just cut down on the "influencer" BS Meta promotes.
Any instance that federates with this garbage should be mass defederated
Yeah I agree. Can't be federating with Instagram: comments section™, owned by Facebook®.
here before some random dude who forgot to defederate from threads gets called a meta supporter and is defederated from like a billion instances
Stupid question, couldn't instances just say they don't allow scraping specifically from Facebook in their ToS and then report them for GDPR violations if they do?
As in say that have the ToS says that "we'll give your data to other instances because that's how the Fediverse works, we won't give your data to Facebook" and also "Facebook is not allowed to federate, and is not allowed to pull data".
Then just say that your data subjects don't consent to any data pulling by Facebook, and Facebook scraping your system even through ActivityPub is a violation of GDPR.
Wouldnt it count for lemmy.world and other European instances because they are from Europe?
All instances should start blocking them. Lemmy.world Admins should be on high alert but something tells me they won't block meta.
Guys, everyone move to small instances so that all the power doesnt go to one instance. I joined aussie.zone just for this reason.
Spookbook is . Everything you say and do on there will be held against you. The company is notorious for fishing expeditions.
I don't know what you're getting excited about here; this is all publicly available information which Facebook could scrape at any time they wanted (federated or not), even right this very second.
Yep. If “world” doesn’t defederate from Threads l am going to main another instance
This will be the death knell of any instance that does no defederate/blacklist them.
Do they get my IP if I reply to somebody or a post on Threads?
I was under the impression that I submit to my instance and then that passes the message along.
I had a quick look at the posts and comments bits of the schema and it doesn't appear to list an IP address field, unless I'm blind. Which is always possible.
Can someone please explain why this matters. Almost all madtadon instances are public and can be data mined by any company. Why is it such a large concern if threads is able to see a portion of the posts on the fediverse like any other mastadon instance. To me the only thing threads federation changes is allowing me to view posts on threads without the amount of MS my cursor is over the podt being data mined to know what food Ill be craving in a week.
Wouldnt the name of your profile be more specific than your ip address so it doesnt matter if they get your ip address or not?
Also, why would they store the data? They cant show you ads
I think the policy has more to do with your server's IP address. The language on the page is a bit vague, since they absolutely collect the IP addresses of their own users.
Mother fuckers are moving to take ownership of the fediverse by calling us "third party users".
I'm pretty sure they mean respective to themselves and their own walled garden, but it definitely doesn't scan well.