they also actually just prefer the social atomism of modern neoliberal society, they would also just prefer a more robust welfare system to be a part of it.
Not necessarily saying you’re wrong, but I’m more in line with what you want if I’m reading you right and I always thought most people here were too. The atomized neoliberal society with just a better welfare system would pretty much be like Nordic socdem states which I thought most people here agree suck. I want communism
What I'm getting at is that everyone on here still articulates their ideas about everything from questions about social equality, to the existential question of "what is a human", in the exact same terms as contemporary liberal capitalist society.
Which is that the standard/ideal is the construction of a world which is populated by "Free & Autonomous Individuals" who don't have any real social obligations to anybody else, and who can't ask anything of anybody around them without it being considered an unjust imposition.
That's what I mean when I say that I think that most people here actually just do prefer the social atomism of modern neoliberal society, to anything else, regardless of their own claims to the contrary.
Not necessarily saying you’re wrong, but I’m more in line with what you want if I’m reading you right and I always thought most people here were too. The atomized neoliberal society with just a better welfare system would pretty much be like Nordic socdem states which I thought most people here agree suck. I want communism
What I'm getting at is that everyone on here still articulates their ideas about everything from questions about social equality, to the existential question of "what is a human", in the exact same terms as contemporary liberal capitalist society.
Which is that the standard/ideal is the construction of a world which is populated by "Free & Autonomous Individuals" who don't have any real social obligations to anybody else, and who can't ask anything of anybody around them without it being considered an unjust imposition.
That's what I mean when I say that I think that most people here actually just do prefer the social atomism of modern neoliberal society, to anything else, regardless of their own claims to the contrary.