But seriously, why is cannabis illegal in cuba?

  • Shmyt [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    Honestly I'd put money on "so the US can't accuse them of narcoterrorism and fuck them up even more - despite Canada literally chilling with all the weed ever, while being even closer than Cuba is". It's not necessarily a good reason, and I might be just pulling this out of my ass, but look at what Amerikkka did to every country that supplies them with weed or coke

    • Baader [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Five years (or so) back, Mexico was talking about legalizing Weed. Guess how the US liked that idea. Legalizing all drungs would radically save lifes. Unregulated markets alwasy lead to the most ruthless winning. Plus, who ever thought "uhh, I would really love to do some heroin now but I don't want to buy it on the streets". Just sell everything in pharmacies.

  • ap1 [any,undecided]
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    4 years ago

    why is it still illegal almost everywhere but parts of the place that started the war on drugs 🤔

      • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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        4 years ago

        It's crazy how one of the oldest cultivated crop in human history suddenly becomes the most hated worldwide because of this single action, all because some brainlet US fundies thinks the devil's lettuce will send them to super hell or something. Imagine if the Mormons took over USA and force the world into banning hot drinks, and in just a few decade everyone views hot drinks as this great evil that must be destroyed.

        • 4_AOC_DMT [any]
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          4 years ago

          I know mormons avoid caffeine and alcohol (and other drugs) but they don't drink hot water?

        • AliceBToklas [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          the longstanding reason that other countries didn't institute their own more permissive drug laws were because the US would presumably penalize them but with Cuba it's definitely something else keeping them from changing it. I presume it's mostly because it's not a huge issue for the ruling class there especially compared with political dissent problems since nobody is going to give you international court bullshit over following international treaties you all signed... but at this point it probably is changing sooner than later.

      • ComradeSankara [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Do you have more information on what forms the US pressure on other countries took? This is very interesting thank you!

        • AliceBToklas [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          so the way it's commonly framed is that if you start to violate a treaty that you signed then all the treaties that you signed would come into question; in practice it was because US drug enforcement would get real pissy if you weren't trying to extradite the local narcos so you just kept handing them over in return for the continued guns and shit. or in the absence of investment, the local conservative ruling parties would generally keep wanting to have the ability to use drug war BS to enforce their will just like how the US did. so you basically see this fractal where it's the US drug war on smaller and smaller scales each one being a little different from the next

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  • AntiNouns [it/its]
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    4 years ago

    Alternatively in North Korea, weed isn't even considered a drug

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    4 years ago

    thank you all for thinking about this with me

  • Keegs [any]
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    4 years ago

    I have some issues with weed, but only powerful strains. Around my parts everyone and their mum smokes weed, no joke, but strict drug laws means you can only get potent shit. I think that can be really damaging, well I know it is, but again this is because of unnatural neolib fuckanomics alienating us from the natural state of things.

    Really powerful weed should be treated like LSD, not something to do on any sort of regular basis. And low-protency weed, more CBD less THC, should take the place of tobacco.

      • Keegs [any]
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        4 years ago

        My point is that low THC strains aren't really available in places with stronger drug laws, so it's not like we have the option. I'm not trying to draw actual comparisons to the effects of weed and LSD.

          • Keegs [any]
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            4 years ago

            I think the practice would be to grow it in back gardens and allotments. There was a group, I dunno what become of them, that went around planting it in public spaces. It is a weed after all, it'll grow almost anywhere you like.

          • spectre [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            I'm starting to see 2:1 CBD strains more and more. You can also get high-CBD/~4% THC cartridges as well

    • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      There is a culture of weed use where more smoked = better. The one-hitter dugout, spliff, and toothpick joints need to make a comeback. Sure its nice going for a massive bong rip on a friday night but doing that everyday is an awful way to live.

      I know so many people who only smoke dabs out of a rig and it might be sliiiightly cleaner but jesus nothing makes you look more like an addict than a propane torch from home depot making a glass nail glow red and a whole bag of gear needed to use your drug of choice.

    • 4_AOC_DMT [any]
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      4 years ago

      I think you're right that cannabis culture is due for a massive change in the way we view and think about using different distributions of cannabinoids and how mode of consumption/particular cannabis preparation alter these distributions. I also agree with you that more balance (i.e. less thc, more of every other active molecule) would produce weed that is better for 99.99% of people's use cases. Also, I think it's easier for people to moderate their thc intake when they're not heavy cannabis users.

      There's a place for melting your face off and becoming one with a paranoid blur of parapolitics documentaries, but I don't think it's for every day use. I think what's probably more important than specific thc concentration in the bud is how much thc (relative to other cannabinoids and also absolutely) ends up in the blood. Using a very small amount of a very high thc strain can be moderated so that a person only gets as much thc as they'd pull out of one with a lower strength, and can also be useful in blending with other strains to alter the distribution of cannabinoids more intentionally. All of this said, those distillate pens have to go. Most of them wick a solution of almost entirely thc (and a small amount of cbd, but almost never terpenes or other cannabinoids, and I've only seen one full spectrum extract pen, which I guess isn't really a distillate cartridge, but I digress) onto a wound metal wire (which I don't think is tested/inspected by a QA system to ensure they don't off-gas heavy metals when oils vaporize on them), whose temperature is usually allowed to increase until the user stops pulling, which can lead to the user combusting the extract on the heating surface.

      I also think most of us don't think much about the method we use to consume it. I used to dab a lot, thinking that I was vaporizing and avoiding combustion, but with the temperatures I was using, I was almost certainly combusting something and after a while, my lungs hurt more from dabs than smoking. Then I switched to vaporizing flower and my lungs hurt way less, I sleep better, and my tolerance is more reasonable. At first I couldn't get as high, but a month long break took care of that. Now just 0.125 grams of a strong strain in a dynavap gets me ripped, and I think this is the one saving grace of high thc strains: you don't need to carry as much to get the same magnitude of effect (assuming that you have enough diversity in cannabinoid and terpene production that every other molecule isn't overshadowed completely by thc.

      I've stopped buying based on reported strength of any cannabinoids (and I think some of these numbers were inflated anyway) and I follow my nose and my gut. I'm okay with not getting quite as high if it tastes amazing and I can know the plant was grown in living soil without any pesticides/fungicides/otherpoisons.

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    4 years ago

    Communism and socialist transition are a process. A Communist party must be the revolutionary vanguard of the masses of the country, but material conditions are different. A party is not a monolithic controlled by one man. It is many people acting as one. It is much easier to always have the correct line in an armchair in the imperial core than it is to correct a wrong line across a whole party.

    Drug laws specifically have a long history of influence and force by imperial core nations.

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      Or, you know, you can just admit that they sometimes get things wrong without the mental gymnastics and apologetics.

      • skeletorsass [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        This does mean that things are wrong?? What I am saying is that a party can have a wrong line because of this. Correcting a line takes time and effort. It is not magical. This is the opposite of an apology.

        Communists can be wrong and must work to correct this, but many netizens in the west reject these parties which do not hold the correct line at a given moment with no regard for them as humans with inner national politics.

      • Keegs [any]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah but no. I think at this point we're speculation on the cultural significance of drugs in their society. Is weed something Cuban's actually want? Even if so shouldn't significant consideration be made through the lens of opposing the global economic order?

        • AStonedApe [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Regardless if the people want weed or not, they shouldn't be imprisoning people for possession.