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Here’s a struggle session for everyone: Let’s grant that Marie Antoinette was a trafficked child bride, and should ultimately be seen as a victim of monarchy writ large. That should then apply to all children raised within royalty, over generations. They are all victims of their status.
My take: mostly they’re cognizant humans responsible for their actions, with relatives who occasionally disowned the system providing proof of redemption, so fuck ’em. But we must honor the legacy of the Russian Cosmists and revive the originators of each dynasty so we can kill them again, extra hard.
Please argue with me.
Marie Antoinette knowingly conspired with foreign powers to bring down the revolution, therefore she got what she deserved. I am also going to repeat myself, but Robespierre should've been less lenient.
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Very true. If you raise a dog to bite, it will bite.
She is as innocent as any rich asshole today who inherited their wealth, only to then keep all of it for themselves. So not innocent at all.
Also, why do we focus on Marie Antoinette here? Let's talk about all those peasants that were fucked in twenty ways every day. By the standards of the time, saying Marie Antoinette had a rough life before she got revolutioned is fucking stupid. Sure, things sucked back then for everyone, but I daresay it sucked measurably less for the nobility.
Yeah, any peasant woman had to deal with being treated as a piece of property and didn't live in a palace the size of a village.
When bread prices skyrocketed and the crown did nothing, the women of Paris marched into Versailles and forced the royal family out of their little opulent hideaway, they made their demands impossible to ignore. It's pretty clear which is the feminist side to take here.
Sure, but is it worth it to leave a threat of a counter revolution aiming to restore a monarchy, just to spare a few lives?
My weakness is trying to suggest some leniency for young children, but I’ve seen this movie before.
Thats a good weakness to have comrade. I get the pragmatic arguments behind why killing the Romanov kids was necessary, but it still just fucks me up because they were just kids. (Also, Puyi kinda fucks up the whole pragmatic necessity argument right?)
puyi's situation was different because mao wasn't fighting against monarchists, he was fighting against republicans. plus his association with the japanese regime made him so vile that no one would've wanted to put him back on the throne anyways. and, on top of that, he wasn't returned to china from the USSR until after the communists had already won the revolution. puyi's case is an interesting one for sure but i don't really think that it is universal
Yeah, I get all that. I prefer to believe that there was a way around killing the Romanov kids but I get that revolutions are messy.
I feel like the worst part of that is not because of the kids but because of their relative’s countries and armies.
Afaik the Bolsheviks didn't consider it necessary, no one has ever managed to find some kind of command from higher ups given to kill the Romanov children or even to execute the Romanovs on the spot.
It was a decision voted by Yekaterinburg Soviet, when the Whites had come close to the city.
+1 to decentralization.
Video games of the future where Unreal Tournament combined with that shitty movie "Gamer", except instead of Gerard Butler, it's Marie Antoinette, Czar Nicholas III and Obama
Revolution bad, status quo worse.