• hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    They got the PAYGO rule scrapped, and getting something really meaty was never on the table in the first place. They don't have a magic wand.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Arguably, sure. But we shouldn't entertain the idea that progressives just folded immediately with nothing to show for it. They got something, and within the range of what was possible it was at least decent.

        • weshallovercum [any]
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          4 years ago

          Dude, they're opportunists. I know it's a hard pill to swallow, but they will always fold to the ruling class.

          • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            They didn't fold here. They got something. What they got is modest, but they only have a modest amount of power.

            It's a mistake to write off high-profile politicians who do unquestionably good stuff like make the case for M4A and destigmatize the term "socialism." Anything less than critical support is unjustifiable.

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They didn't get PAYGO scrapped. They got some limited exceptions to PAYGO for bills related to covid or climate change. I guarantee Pelosi doesn't consider M4A related to covid.

    • TossedAccount [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Holy shit they did?? That removes one of the most obnoxious excuses Pelosi might have had for refusing to pass spending bills to help working class people.