• deshara218 [any]
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    4 years ago

    i remember reading that the reason the DSA doesnt form a party is bc they do a lot of local organizing & direct action and running against the DNC in national elections would hurt their ability to do direct action. No need to destroy food bank programs so they can lose a symbolic run

    • KamalaHarrisPOTUS [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      could aoc run for reelection as dsa member and beat her challengers? she has to be insanely popular and well known in her district, or as an independent

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        4 years ago

        the point im making here isnt about whether AOC could win her seat as DSA, its that she shouldn't. beating a DNC member for a seat as DSA hurts the DSA's ability to do direct action. They run a lot of food banks & free light car repair tents (to help prevent ppl from getting pulled over for like, having a busted tail light or a license plate that fell off) that get a lot of funding & support from local democratic politicians and if the DSA threw in behind AOC and she went and whipped the ass of a democratic federal senator the DSA-run food banks & stuff would see a decrease in the amount of funding & support they receive as a consequence of it. This is what is meant by parallel power structures. It can't all be done by 1 super-party of leftists bc there are things you need to get done that is made harder by doing other stuff you need to get done. You need 1 party whose job is to ally with anyone they can to get resources to help normal people with direct action, and a 2nd party whose job is to go to war with the DNC & GOP and whip ass, and they can't be the same group.

        TLDR; dont ever expect the DSA to do federal politics. They shouldn't

        • KamalaHarrisPOTUS [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          does the dnc actually fund her campaigns? surely she brings in more money for them than they do for her ? idk im genuinely asking

          edit: and its not like the DSA is a revolutionary party ?? whats the demsoc end game?

          • deshara218 [any]
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            4 years ago

            im not saying the DNC funds AOC's campaigns (p sure they dont & fund anyone who runs against her), Im talking the DNC funding DSA direct action on a local level like food banks. Like a DNC mayor giving some tax money to a food bank that the DSA started. If the DSA starts backing politicians who un-seat a DNC senator, that DNC mayor might stop funding the DSA-run food bank bc they are now The Enemy Of The Party & he doesn't want the party to cut his funding for his next campaign over funding a political opponent's tiny little local charity

            • KamalaHarrisPOTUS [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              right but the opportunity cost of waaaaay more money going from AOC's fundraising efforts to the DNC that she coukd instead direct into dsa is pretty clearly more than whatever crumbs the DNC throws at DSA projects, besides heightening the contradictions and weakening the dnc as an institution and going for those paper members and actual members that more fame would bring the party

              why do electoralism for someone else? milk that national spotlight for all its worth and dont let the dnc take credit for actual organizing

              • deshara218 [any]
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                4 years ago

                AOC will not generate for the DSA more money than its alliance with the local DNC governments lol

                  • deshara218 [any]
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                    4 years ago

                    well its not just a matter of money, its also a matter of like, the mayor letting them use land or not sending cops to beat the volunteers for feeding poor people, which no reasonable amount of money could replace