• GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Someone revive Lenin to slap these people in the face

  • CoralMarks [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    “The younger generation of communists is very akin to the modern European left,” said Alexander Kynev, a political scientist formerly at Moscow’s Higher School of Economics.

    “The Soviet-era rhetoric and ideology is meaningless for them.”
    [...]
    “For many younger cadres, their affinity with Navalny is entirely organic,” said Kynev. “He’s a left populist, and so are they.”

    Sounds like the younger people that align with the Communist Party are very fluid, so to speak, when it comes to their ideologies.
    Can anybody maybe provide some more context or detail on that?

    Above all, however, the KPRF is divided over cooperation with the Navalny movement’s much-discussed Smart Voting scheme, under which opposition-minded voters are encouraged to rally around the strongest non ruling United Russia party candidate in each district.

    With the communists the clear contenders against the ruling party in most of the Duma’s 225 districts, their candidates are likely to receive the bulk of Smart Voting endorsements.
    [...]
    For many KPRF officials, the example of the 2019 Moscow City Council election, when Smart Voting-backed Communists slashed United Russia’s majority, leaping from five seats to thirteen, demonstrates the potential fruits of collaboration with Navalny supporters.

    Tactically this doesn't appear like too bad of an idea to be quite honest though.

    “The Kremlin will likely force the Communists to keep the most radical candidates out of the Duma elections. They might even have to expel some of them,” said the Center for Political Technologies’ Makarkin.

    Do I read this right that the old guard leadership of the Communist Party are basically controlled opposition?
    Although I'd assume that that is due to their experiences during the 90s and Putin being able to bring some stability back to the country, so they rather cling to that than risk anything, right?

    • comi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They are not old guard, old guard was expelled and show-trialed in 1991 (I think) for insurrection/counter-constitutional activities, they are merely a shell of the former. They are reactionary socdem at best, at worst simple opportunists.

      Edit: Still probably :vote: for them :deeper-sadness:

      • CoralMarks [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Although at least for the time before the fall of the SU, according to the Wiki, Zyuganov doesn't sound too bad, but I bet after the dissolution he and others still in leadership positions now must've signed a pact with the devil, so to speak, to survive till this day.

        Zyuganov emerged as a leading critic of Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev's perestroika and glasnost in the party's Agitation and Propaganda division (later the Ideological division), a hotbed of opposition to reform. As the party began to crumble in the late 1980s, Zyuganov took the side of hard-liners against reforms that would ultimately culminate in the end of CPSU rule and the dissolution of the Soviet Union. In May 1991, he published a fiercely critical piece on Alexander Yakovlev.
        Zyuganov wrote several influential papers in the early 1990s attacking Boris Yeltsin and calling for a return to the socialism of the pre-Gorbachev days. In July 1991, he signed the "A Word to the People" declaration.

        • comi [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          He wasn’t, he says kinda based things even now, but the party itself is very meh. I’m actually interested to see what would they do if they win, so that’s why voot.

          Also allegedly he likes Fukuyama lel. He is not a marxist in any case, and reactionary socially I’m like 95 % sure

          • CoralMarks [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            So basically one could say they have become paper tigers lacking ideological clarity and conviction, right?
            Like so many communist parties active in todays parliamentary systems.

            But yeah, in the end, they can't do much worse than Putin's oligarchy. So yeah.

            • comi [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Sure, if the word was not associated with other guys, I would classify them natsocdems, they have this weird patriotic fixation that bugs me. I don’t think they had clarity to begin with, they are brezhnev creatures stylistically and in essence, so :shrug: . They can do worse, in that they will fuck once again word communist for new generation, which is why I’m slightly concerned that they would be completely ineffective. Like they don’t support strikes on national level, or agitate among workers, so their electoral support is against something, not for something

              • CoralMarks [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Oh, yeah, those are very good points. I have to admit that my knowledge of details of Russian internal politics is rather lacking, so that sucks to learn.
                But thanks for educating me a bit here anyways.

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The leader of the Russian communist party is essentially an oligarch, so yes they are controlled opposition

    • KrasMazovThought [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Sounds like the younger people that align with the Communist Party are very fluid, so to speak, when it comes to their ideologies.

      Honestly if I had to guess it could be nothing fancier than the fact that old people in Russia will speak fondly of communism and life under the Soviet Union, and if parents or boomers like it, it sucks.

      In North America saying Stalin is bae both serves as a vehicle for the cause of advancing communism and let's you piss off your parents at the same time.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Do I read this right that the old guard leadership of the Communist Party are basically controlled opposition?

      That's kinda true from what I gather.

      Navalny is definitely not a left populist though. However, almost everyone who is an opponent of Putin in Russia saw this as a chance to attack him.

      • CoralMarks [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah, I'd say Navalny is an opportunist who will say basically anything to gain popularity and votes in that particular moment in time.

        But if the communists could actually use this voting strategy laid out in the article to consolidate anti status quo voters behind their candidates I guess that might not be the worst idea this time around.

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yes, it's not a bad idea, but the situation in Russia is a tough nut to crack. They're basically a one party system, it's really hard (and dangerous) for anyone to do something significant.

  • Ryan_Holman [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Isn't the main Communist Party in Russia incredibly reactionary?

    • HarryLime [any]
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      4 years ago

      Zyuganov isn't a capitalist, but he's been very limp opposition since the election was stolen from in by Yeltsin and the US in '94. They did try running a billionaire against Putin and lost miserably, the the guy they ran was apparently the elected CEO of some farming cooperative business so it was kind of a "here's how you can be rich under our Chinese-style Market Socialism platform" and not a total selling out, but people still hated it.