• Nama [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      Good to know I'm on the safe side with granny porn then.

      • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        The older the person in question is the less terrible it is, which is why I am verifiably the greatest person in the world because i only jack it to partially complete australopithecus fossils

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I just remembered how weird guys were when

    • Brittney Spears
    • Christina Aguilera
    • big gap cause then I wouldnt be following young pop starlets through simple exposure, but I’m sure there were a lot
    • Billie Ellish

    Turned 18.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Every single young actress has a dedicated subreddit full of creeps waiting for the 18 bday

    • Barabas [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Biggest one I can recall was the Olsen twins. Also the creepiest I can recall since they had been on screen since they were toddlers.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        Biggest one I can recall was the Olsen twins.

        Bob Saget creeping on teenage girls is the most American thing since Epstein.

      • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        This is the bottom line of this whole argument for me.

        I've read more about this from Red Canary, who are pro-sex workers rights (anyone that wants to do sex work should be allowed to do sex work) but that sex trafficking is insanely common and needs to be combatted.

        CW

        Also sex work should be legalized because cops can't keep themselves from raping sex workers. It's fucking horrifying, I'm not gonna link anything because it's covered in all types of media. Also cop-detainee sex is not illegal. In terms of policy, there are a million common sense things you could do, even from a completely non-leftist standpoint.

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                4 years ago

                I don't know who that is. I'd be personally iffy on a person who was groomed doing sex work even while of age but I don't think it's up to us to prevent them from doing it if they genuinely actually want to, you can just not look at it and then it's not viable anyway.

              • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Yeah it's not an easy question, which is why it's a great struggle session. And the difference between a utopian view VS what we could theoretically implement today is stark. I like to imagine a society where sex workers are able to own their own labor with free access to healthcare, therapy, protection, legal help, and maybe most importantly, an easy career change if they so choose.

                I have no answer to the cultural remedy part. Without having done the research, I imagine the explosion of OnlyFans is correlated with economic anxiety. So as with most things, a strong anti-poverty campaign (communism?) is the best antidote. Similar to how the best anti-racism is universalist anti-poverty.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Money is a huge tool in grooming. Everything else needs to come from destigmatizing this stuff and making children more comfortable speaking up about people doing this sort of stuff. The most common one besides financial grooming I've seen is the "you're smarter than other girls/boys your age" which is a bit harder to combat.

    • superdoctorman [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Economic freedom for women. That way the only reason to do sex work is for the passion of it, not for survival.

    • Septbear [love/loves]
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      4 years ago

      Make sexualising kids and teenagers illegal. Stop making films about teeangers played by hot 20 somethings. Stop equating youth with sexiness through constant advertising.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      4 years ago
      • Socialism, so everyone has access to education and a dignified existence and so that the inequalities that makes people feel like shit for not being Rick enough are abolished.
      • Building an inclusive culture where everyone have a place and young people doesn't feel like they have to break their own boundaries to be accepted.
      • Feminism, to rid us of the idea of the idea of a hierarchy of genders and of the idea of female sexuality as inherently submissive and male sexuality as inherently dominant. Instead sex should be seen as something that happens between equals regardless of gender.
    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Abolish capitalism, thus defeating the purpose of sex work in the first place.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      Don't know much about laws on grooming nor peers pressure to do something in this kinda way

  • hahafuck [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I'm pro but we need to talk about how literally bc people on the internet have been. this shit is as fuck. like sorry but this is just a new breed of imo

  • carbohydra [des/pair]
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    4 years ago
    • sex workers are workers

    • work under capitalism is involuntary if you belong to the working class

    • the discussion about sex work usually focuses on PMC's for a good reason

  • Clindamycinlover [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I see what you saying but I don't think it's contradictory to sex work it's more something to do with toxic masculinity