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  • Changes in economic relations have happened but are still pretty limited, like more strict enforcement with dual purpose export regulations, which have angered Israeli officials and importers:

    Israelis are concerned with the enforcement of regulations, saying that it reflects the supposed pro-Palestinian stance that Chinese authorities have taken.

    "It is clear to us that there is a direct link to the war," the unnamed official told Ynet.

    Some Israeli businesspeople have gone to the extent of claiming that Beijing has imposed sanctions on "Israel" for enforcing regulations.

    "The Chinese are imposing a kind of sanction on us. They don't officially declare it, but they are delaying shipments to Israel," an industrialist said.

    "This has never happened to us before. We are talking about many different types of components. In electronic products, there are tens of thousands of components, but if even one component doesn't arrive, we cannot deliver the product," he complained.




  • Hella [none/use name]tothe_dunk_tank*Permanently Deleted*
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    1 year ago

    A Ukrainian-Canadian political scientist's thread on the members of the SS Galicia Division and their involvement in the mass murder of Poles, Jews, and Ukrainians in Ukraine and Poland:

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1705739708683128836.html


  • This occurred under under the leadership of Jiang Zemin and ended under Hu Jintao. China had largely prioritized realpolitik and stability with its neighbors to a fault for the past several decades. Tibet was an especially sensitive region at the time due to the threat of anti-communist Tibetan exiles organizing on the other side of the border in Nepal that could capitalize on the chaos during the Nepalese civil war. The Nepalese government was considered an old ally that would try to prevent anti-China Tibetan exiles in Nepal from engaging in separatist activists. From a liberal source:

    Instead, the Chinese government is worried about maintaining the stability of an impoverished nation that shares a long border with Tibet and could serve as a base for Tibetan exiles seeking to shake off Chinese rule.

    In turn, the king assured Jiang that Nepal would never let its territory be used as "venues for any activity undermining China's interests," the official New China News Agency reported.

    Nepal is important to China because of its strategic location south of Tibet. Many Nepalese are Himalayan people ethnically similar to Tibetans, and about 35,000 Tibetan refugees live there. As many as 2,500 more make the dangerous journey into the country every year. Most oppose Chinese rule of Tibet and support the Dalai Lama, the spiritual leader who lives in exile in India.

    The Nepalese government prohibits Tibetans from engaging in any political activities that could anger China.

    Nepal is also an important buffer between China and India, rivals that fought a border war in 1962. Historically, the two countries have competed for influence in Nepal.

    Easily one of the most cringeworthy foreign policy decisions in PRC history and arguably the worst one in the post-Sino-Soviet split era. Nevertheless, China managed to establish good relations with Nepali Maoists in the new government after the civil war in spite of the Chinese government being on the wrong side of the conflict at the time.


  • Zelensky defending the fascist Nazi collaborator and ultra-nationalist Stepan Bandera, who was instrumental in helping to carry out the Holocaust in Ukraine:

    There are indisputable heroes. Stepan Bandera is a hero for a certain part of Ukrainians, and this is a normal and cool thing. He was one of those who defended the freedom of Ukraine.

    A national survey conducted in Ukraine in 2009 inquired about attitudes by region towards Bandera's faction of the OUN:

    In Galicia (provinces of Lviv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk) 37% had a "very positive" opinion of Bandera, 26% a "mostly positive" opinion, 20% were "neutral", 5% "mostly negative", 6% "very negative", and 6% "unsure". In Volhynia, 5% had a very positive opinion, 20% a mostly positive opinion, 57% were neutral, 7% were mostly negative, 5% very negative and 6% were unsure. In Transcarpathia 4% of the respondents had a very positive opinion, 32% a mostly positive opinion, 50% were neutral, none had a mostly negative opinion, 7% had a very negative opinion and 7% were unsure. In contrast, in central Ukraine (comprising the capital Kyiv, as well as the provinces of Zhytomyr, Cherkasy, Chernihiv, Poltava, Sumy, Vinnytsia, and Kirovohrad) attitudes towards Bandera's faction of the OUN were 3% very positive, 10% mostly positive, 24% neutral, 17% mostly negative, 21% very negative and 25% unsure. In Eastern Ukraine (the provinces of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporizhzhia) 1% each had very positive or mostly positive attitudes towards Bandera's OUN, 19% were neutral, 13% mostly negative, 26% very negative and 20% unsure. In Ukraine's south (the Odessa, Mykolaiv and Kherson regions plus Crimea) 1% each were very or mostly positive, 13% were neutral, 31% mostly negative, 48% very negative and 25% were unsure. In Ukraine as a whole, 6% of Ukrainians had a very positive opinion, 8% a mostly positive opinion, 23% were neutral, 15% had a mostly negative opinion, 30% had a very negative opinion, and 18% were unsure.

    A 2021 poll regarding views of Stepan Bandera conducted by the Ilko Kucheriv Democratic Initiatives Foundation together with the Razumkov Center's sociological service:

    a positive attitude prevails in the western region of Ukraine (70%); in the central region of the state, 27% of respondents consider his activity positive, 27% consider his activity negative and 27% consider his activity both positive and negative;[116] negative attitude prevails in the southern and eastern regions of Ukraine (54% and 48% of respondents consider his activity negative for Ukraine, respectively).

    An article detailing some of Zelensky's ties to the far-right in Ukraine.


  • Hella [none/use name]tothe_dunk_tankWho must go?
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    3 years ago

    Mao did as well unfortunately. A 1975 conversation record of Chairman Mao Zedong’s meeting with Pol Pot:

    Pol Pot: We are very glad to do so, we are very happy to meet the Chairman.

    Chairman Mao: Your fighting, WAR, political, military, economic, foreign policies and the united front–I won’t talk about it. I agree with what he says, he said you were right.

    Pol Pot: Thank you. It warms our hearts to hear the Chairman say so.

    Chairman Mao: We approve of what you do. Much of your experience is better than ours. China is not qualified to criticize you. We committed errors of the political lines for ten times in fifty years—some are national, some are regional (The mistakes made by) Chen Duxiu, Qu Qiubai, Li Lisan, and Luo Zhanglong had nothing to do with the Soviet Union. (Those made by) Wang Ming, Zhang Guotao, Gao Gang, Peng Dehuai, Liu Shaoqi, and Lin Biao involved the Soviet Union. They opposed us and divided the party, but they all failed. The party remained undivided and they were excluded. Thus I say that China has no qualification to criticize you, and can only agree with you. You are basically correct. I am not sure whether you have any shortcoming. There are bound to some and you’ll rectify by yourself. RECTIFICATION.I won’t talk about all these. Let this fellow surnamed Deng do it.

    Foreign policy during the Sino-Soviet split was often extremely cringeworthy under both Mao and Deng:

    As the Vietnam War developed, China increasingly voiced its disapproval of North Vietnamese collaboration with the Soviet Union, which enhanced Chinese fears of a larger Soviet encirclement policy directed against China. The feeling amongst the Chinese was that, ‘if Vietnam was not against Moscow, it was against China’. Vietnamese reliance on the Soviet Union, and an increase in Soviet-Vietnamese cooperation, led to a further deterioration in both the Sino-Soviet and Sino-Vietnamese relationships.From as early as 1969, China began to reassess its policy towards the US. By engaging in Sino-American rapprochement, China could use the US to balance the Soviet threat. At the same time, a newly-elected President Nixon was beginning a similar reassessment of the Sino-American relationship. US rapprochement with China would engage the latter in balancing the Soviet Union, and would help to reduce US presence in Vietnam.

    The Khmer Rouge began to assume a greater role in Chinese foreign policy between November 1973 and April 1974. China was concerned with increased Soviet aid to the Vietnamese, and saw enhanced relations with Cambodia as a means to balance a Soviet-aligned Vietnam. Enhanced relations between China and Cambodia were realized in a May 1974 agreement, which provided the Khmer Rouge with free military equipment and supplies. In April 1975, Cambodia negotiated a Chinese military aid package of 13,300 tons of weapons. By mid-September, ‘China was prepared to extend to Cambodia a total of US$1 billion in interest-free economic and military aid, including an immediate $20 million gift’. This was reportedly ‘the biggest aid ever given to any one country by China’.

    The Sino-Vietnamese border war was fought in three stages, beginning on 17 February, and ending with a complete withdrawal on 16 March. It involved 400,000 Chinese troops, and was the largest People’s Liberation Army (PLA) military operation undertaken since the Korean War. The attack caught Hanoi off-guard, forcing them to resist the Chinese advance whilst requesting immediate aid from Moscow. The Chinese claimed the war to be a victory, with more than a dozen border cities captured and 57,000 Vietnamese soldiers wounded or killed. The Vietnamese claimed they lost several cities, but only after killing and wounding 42,000 Chinese troops. However, the PLA were willing to absorb heavy losses, as long as the conflict achieved its strategic goals. The PLA believed these goals had been achieved, and that the war had succeeded in ‘exposing Moscow’s inability or unwillingness to back Vietnam’.


  • Hella [none/use name]tothe_dunk_tank*Permanently Deleted*
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    3 years ago

    Pol Pot had friendly relations with the PRC since the 50s under Mao and had made many visits to receive military and political training. A 1975 conversation record of Chairman Mao Zedong's meeting with Pol Pot, Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Kampuchea:

    Pol Pot: We are very glad to do so, we are very happy to meet the Chairman.

    Chairman Mao: Your fighting, WAR, political, military, economic, foreign policies and the united front–I won’t talk about it. I agree with what he says, he said you were right.

    Pol Pot: Thank you. It warms our hearts to hear the Chairman say so.

    Chairman Mao: We approve of what you do. Much of your experience is better than ours. China is not qualified to criticize you. We committed errors of the political lines for ten times in fifty years—some are national, some are regional (The mistakes made by) Chen Duxiu, Qu Qiubai, Li Lisan, and Luo Zhanglong had nothing to do with the Soviet Union. (Those made by) Wang Ming, Zhang Guotao, Gao Gang, Peng Dehuai, Liu Shaoqi, and Lin Biao involved the Soviet Union. They opposed us and divided the party, but they all failed. The party remained undivided and they were excluded. Thus I say that China has no qualification to criticize you, and can only agree with you. You are basically correct. I am not sure whether you have any shortcoming. There are bound to some and you’ll rectify by yourself. RECTIFICATION.I won’t talk about all these. Let this fellow surnamed Deng do it.

    There is one point I’d like to talk about. Currently you are on the transition from democratic revolution to the socialist way. SOCIALIST WAY. There are two possible outcomes: one is socialism, the other is capitalism. We are still struggling between the two possible outcomes now. Wang Ming, Zhang Guotao, Gao Gang, Peng Dehuai, Liu Shaoqi, and Lin Biao—they wanted to build capitalism. In the next 50 or 100 years, there will still be a struggle between these two lines. In the next ten thousand years, there will still be a struggle between the two. Even when Communism is achieved, there will still be a struggle between the two. Otherwise we aren’t Marxists. The unity of opposites, UNITY OF OPPOSITES. If we only talk about one, that’s metaphysics; if we talk about two, then it’s the UNITY OF OPPOSITES, STRUGGLE OF OPPOSITES. I believe in what Marx and Lenin said.

    The road is winding. Lenin’s Soviet Union changed under Khrushchev and Brezhnev. In future, it will still return to the Lenin’s path. The same goes for China. It could become revisionist in the future, but eventually it will follow the path set by Marx and Lenin.

    We are now a capitalist country without capitalists, as said by Lenin. This country wants to protect the legal rights of the capitalist classes. People’s wages are not equal. It perpetuates unequal systems under the guise of slogans of egalitarianism. That’s what we are like right now and this will continue for many years before we achieve Communism. Communism will also have two lines of struggle, and the struggles between the progressive and the backward. We can’t talk about it comprehensively as yet. These are what we openly say in the newspapers. That’s all I have to say.

    Pol Pot: We are very honored to be able to pay our respects to Chairman Mao here today. We have always respected Chairman Mao and learned from your works. Your writings have guided our revolution until we achieved a nationwide victory. We are able to meet Chairman Mao in person today and hear Chairman Mao talk about the issue of the lines. This is a very important and strategic issue. We will be sure to do as you say from now on. I studied many of Chairman Mao’s works from a young age, particularly your work on the people’s war. Chairman Mao’s works guided our entire party while we were engaged in the political and military struggles. We made use of it in our actual struggle and achieved results. When our struggles entered the most difficult stage , we studied the work The Struggle in the Jinggang Mountains, and it steeled our resolve. We also paid close attention to the experience of the Chinese people led by Chairman Mao after China was liberated. We read articles talking about China’s experience very closely. Chairman Mao’s earlier comments on the issue of the line struggle...

    Chairman Mao: Uh huh.

    Pol Pot: We also study it within the party. We pay close attention to class struggle and line struggle. We will study and learn from the experience of China until we achieve the final victory.

    Chairman Mao: Don’t copy China’s example completely. Master Shi said, whoever attempts to be like me will get sick. Master Shi is named Kumarajiva, living during the ear of the Southern and Northern Dynasties. He was a foreigner who could speak Chinese and he translated many Buddhist texts. We have to figure it out on our own. As Marx said, their teachings could only serve a guide and are not doctrines. Marx said so himself. Kumarajiva’s words were quoted by a Chinese scholar called Yan Fu . Yan was a translator. This quotation is from (the introduction of) On Evolution translated by Yan. Yan said he was not “translating”, but was “expressing the original texts elegantly,” and that was what was he did for this book. But he translated literally the other works such as those about political economies. This was written by (Thomas Henry) Huxley, HUXLEY . He was British and a supporter of Darwin and called himself “Darwin’s Bulldog.” He came up with the idea of “agnosticism., German Kant talked about agnosticism. Huxley said the agnosticism talked about by Kant, only knew what was on the surface but not the substance. He was a materialist in his understanding of the natural sciences and idealist with regards to the social sciences. He endorsed Indian Buddhist philosophy. Thus Marx called him a “shamefaced materialist.” I’ve never said so much to other people on the things I’ve said to you.

    Pol Pot: Thank you. This is a great honor to us. Chairman Mao has received us today and talked to us about so many things and given us a great deal of inspiration. It is a treasure trove for our party and people. Please allow us to express our deepest thanks once again.

    Chairman Mao: Don’t thank me. Thank Marx and Lenin. There are 30 works of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin, in big type, that I wish to gift to you. Marx and Lenin said it very well, better than myself.

    Pol Pot: We are glad to receive them. We will study them very hard and apply them in accordance with the conditions in our country. We also want to continue learning Chairman Mao’s works. Chairman Mao: I am not satisfied with myself. Alright, thank you!

    Pol Pot: We are taking our leave. I wish Chairman Mao a long life! I represent our delegation, our party and all our fighters in wishing Chairman Mao longevity! Farewell!

    Chairman Mao: Thank you.

    Pol Pot: Goodbye!


  • Hella [none/use name]tothe_dunk_tank*Permanently Deleted*
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    3 years ago

    The Sino-Soviet Split and its consequences...

    As the Vietnam War developed, China increasingly voiced its disapproval of North Vietnamese collaboration with the Soviet Union, which enhanced Chinese fears of a larger Soviet encirclement policy directed against China. The feeling amongst the Chinese was that, ‘if Vietnam was not against Moscow, it was against China’. Vietnamese reliance on the Soviet Union, and an increase in Soviet-Vietnamese cooperation, led to a further deterioration in both the Sino-Soviet and Sino-Vietnamese relationships.From as early as 1969, China began to reassess its policy towards the US. By engaging in Sino-American rapprochement, China could use the US to balance the Soviet threat. At the same time, a newly-elected President Nixon was beginning a similar reassessment of the Sino-American relationship. US rapprochement with China would engage the latter in balancing the Soviet Union, and would help to reduce US presence in Vietnam.

    China was especially concerned about Soviet influence over Vietnam. Foreign Minister Hua informed Secretary of State Cyrus Vance in 1978 that Vietnam’s ‘objective is regional hegemony, and it has hired itself out to the Soviet Union, while the Soviet Union has exploited the ambitions of Vietnam to realize its aggression’.

    US Secretary of Defence Harold Brown surmised that, ‘to the extent our opening to China reduces the chances of Sino-Soviet détente, we gain enormously … it is very important to stabilize our relationship with China and to avoid the situation where the Chinese are allied with the Soviets against us’.

    The Khmer Rouge began to assume a greater role in Chinese foreign policy between November 1973 and April 1974. China was concerned with increased Soviet aid to the Vietnamese, and saw enhanced relations with Cambodia as a means to balance a Soviet-aligned Vietnam. Enhanced relations between China and Cambodia were realized in a May 1974 agreement, which provided the Khmer Rouge with free military equipment and supplies. In April 1975, Cambodia negotiated a Chinese military aid package of 13,300 tons of weapons. By mid-September, ‘China was prepared to extend to Cambodia a total of US$1 billion in interest-free economic and military aid, including an immediate $20 million gift’.113 This was reportedly ‘the biggest aid ever given to any one country by China’.

    China anointed the Sino-Khmer alliance on 28 September 1977. However, Chinese leaders still sought to exercise a ‘moderating influence’ on the Khmer Rouge, and to point the regime ‘in the direction of a more traditional realpolitik foreign policy’. According to a November 1978 US Interagency Intelligence Memorandum, China may have been ‘unhappy with some of the policies of the present Khmer regime’, but it still considered ‘an independent Kampuchea allied with Peking an essential buffer against the expansion of Vietnamese, and by extension Soviet, influence in the area’. China hoped ‘to thwart Vietnamese ambitions by providing strong support for Kampuchea’. In its bid to prevent Vietnamese regional expansion, China became ‘the principal source of military and economic aid to Kampuchea’.

    Unable to receive aid from countries such as the US and China, Vietnam was driven further into the arms of the Soviet Union. Vietnam joined the Comecon, a Moscow based economic arrangement, in August 1978. On 3 November 1978, it signed a treaty of Friendship and Cooperation with Moscow, which resulted in a massive shipment of Soviet military hardware to Vietnam.A closer relationship with the Soviet Union provided economic and military aid, as well as security assurances against an aggressive China. However, the increase in Soviet-Vietnamese relations led to a further decrease in Sino-Vietnamese relations. China viewed the treaty as a direct threat, believing it represented ‘another step in the Soviet effort to establish a collective security system in the region, ultimately directed against China’.

    China’s military action against Vietnam came approximately two weeks after Deng’s visit to Washington. US Secretary of Defence, Harold Brown, believed this was ‘clearly Deng’s intent … to use security relations with us as a means of constraining the USSR’. On 10 February 1979, Vietnam transmitted an urgent message to the UN from its Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Foreign Affairs, which ‘charged that China had recently intensified armed activities at the Vietnamese frontier in preparation for war’. On 17 February, the Chinese government issued a statement arguing that ‘because Vietnamese authorities had ignored China’s warnings and repeatedly encroached on Chinese territory and attacked Chinese frontier guards and inhabitants, China had been forced to counter-attack’. On 18 February, a representative from the Soviet Union charged ‘China with aggression against Viet Nam, blatantly flouting international law and exposing the essence of Peking’s hegemonic policy in Southeast Asia’.

    The Sino-Vietnamese border war was fought in three stages, beginning on 17 February, and ending with a complete withdrawal on 16 March. It involved 400,000 Chinese troops, and was the largest People’s Liberation Army (PLA) military operation undertaken since the Korean War. The attack caught Hanoi off-guard, forcing them to resist the Chinese advance whilst requesting immediate aid from Moscow. The Chinese claimed the war to be a victory, with more than a dozen border cities captured and 57,000 Vietnamese soldiers wounded or killed. The Vietnamese claimed they lost several cities, but only after killing and wounding 42,000 Chinese troops. However, the PLA were willing to absorb heavy losses, as long as the conflict achieved its strategic goals. The PLA believed these goals had been achieved, and that the war had succeeded in ‘exposing Moscow’s inability or unwillingness to back Vietnam’. While the use of force against Vietnam had been condemned by the US, albeit ambiguously, and raised the suspicions of regional states such as Indonesia and Malaysia, ultimately there was very little backlash, regionally or internationally.