https://twitter.com/jeremythunder/status/1448768005488447491?t=lm9kfyRqn0OPk3s6ODbhnA&s=19

https://twitter.com/HugoTheCat3/status/1448859734350696448?t=lm9kfyRqn0OPk3s6ODbhnA&s=19

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    It's absolutely sick and the people who watch/listen to it should be ashamed. They are not helping society, they are not helping themselves, they are vultures enjoying the death of their fellow humans.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      That's a bit harsher than what I'd say. I'd put more blame on whatever's causing this cultural phenomenon, like capitalism or alienation or background noise white supremacy. The people obsessed with true crime are just putting a podcast on or watching a TV show, same as a lot of folks. They don't intuit it as different than any other form of entertainment and why would they? We're all sitting on graves and enjoying the fruits of imperialism. The fans are only damaging their own psyches from listening, but that's the position we're all in. I can't say I'm much better in regard to my humanity than the true crime fans, I laugh when conservative radio hosts die of covid or when cops kill themselves.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        When you laugh at cops and conservative hosts, those are active enemies you are laughing at. They are opposed to you, and have hurt you. Watching a serial killer attack someone, or listening to an account of it, for entertainment and not to learn something abut society or what exactly happened, is taking pleasure in the pain and death of another. People should notice this and that it is wrong.

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          I think we might be headbutting a weird grey zone of personal morality and cultural phenomenon that doesn't have an easy answer. People obsess over whatever spectacles exist in the current moment. The entertainment that's given to them is perceived as what's available.

          Someone who has read more Debord or Althusser or someone could probably say what I'm struggling to put into words.

          • emizeko [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            I haven't read those but when you are hyperindividualized and "the protagonist of your own movie" and the hedonic treadmill is robbing you of pleasure, it seems like there's a certain type of person who can only still "get off" by self-inserting themselves as the victim in these stories

    • twitter [any]
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      3 years ago

      capitalist exploitation and ecocide of the whole planet: :comfy:

      someone somewhere is listening to a true crime podcast: :honk-enraged:

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        I can be upset by more than one thing at a time, believe it or not. If I saw one man shoot a hospital and another trip a child and laugh at him, I would be upset by both.

        • twitter [any]
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          3 years ago

          Calling thousands of completely normal people "vultures enjoying death" who "are not helping society" and who "should be ashamed of themselves" for consuming media you don't personally approve of is peak internet discourse but :honk-enraged: away I guess

          • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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            3 years ago

            Don't think someone who 1. Accused me of a position/priority list I didn't have from a single comment 2. Implied I didn't care enough about a big problem because I voiced an opinion about another problem and 3. Switched arguments mid-roll can really accuse anyone else of being peak internet discourse. All that aside, what's even your point here? It's not something i just don't like or approve of, I've stated pretty clearly it's actively harmful. Are you going to argue that they aren't deriving pleasure from other people's pain and suffering, or that this is somehow helping society?

              • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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                3 years ago

                dang excellent point. You took an aggressive tone and have yet to correct me on what part of my thinking is wrong, I'm clearly being irrational.

                • twitter [any]
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                  3 years ago

                  :honk-enraged: Debaaaaaate meeeeee

                  *also lmao the poster who was just summarily labeling people moral reprobates for the crime of listening to the wrong genre of podcasts is now offended by someone taking an "aggressive tone." Just the biggest karen energy