It's literally like this:
Materialists/Physicalists: "The thoughts in your head come from your conditions and are ultimately the result of your organs and nervous system. Your consciousness is linked to your brain activity and other parts of your body interacting with the physical real world."
Dualists: "Ok but what if there were an imaginary zombie that has the same organs and molecular structure as a living person but somehow isn't alive on some metaphysical level. If this zombie is conceivable, that means it must be metaphysically true somehow."
Materialists: "That's circular and imaginary, isn't it?"
Other dualists: "Ok but what if I were in a swamp and lightning strikes a tree and magically creates a copy of me but it's not actually me because it doesn't have my soul."
Am I reading this stuff wrong or are these actually the best arguments for mind-body dualism
Determinism is just Calvinism for nihilists
In everyday practice, especially when it's brought up in an unsolicited way, yeah pretty much. It's related to the "love is just chemicals, relationships are all transactions" crowd and has a lot of overlap of being abrasive and smug and reductionistic.
I'd argue with capital-D Determinists, but there's no point because the outcome of the argument is ostensibly predetermined anyway, even though acting and behaving like it's predetermined also changes the outcome and in general people are happier and better off not humoring determinism in their everyday lives to begin with. :the-more-you-know:
https://existentialcomics.com/comic/125
I'm a compatabilist! I think determinism and free will are perfectly compatible and, in fact, we only have free will because of determinism in the first place.
If you don't do the determinist equivalent of shouting "god's not real!" :very-intelligent: at a funeral, that's fine by me. :antler-bernie: