Called the Iroquois Confederacy by the French, and the League of Five Nations by the English, the confederacy is properly called the Haudenosaunee Confederacy meaning People of the long house. The confederacy was founded by the prophet known as the Peacemaker with the help of Aionwatha, more commonly known as Hiawatha. The exact date of the joining of the nations is unknown and said to be time immemorial making it one of the first and longest lasting participatory democracies in the world.

The confederacy, made up of the Mohawks, Oneidas, Onondagas, Cayugas, and Senecas was intended as a way to unite the nations and create a peaceful means of decision making. Through the confederacy, each of the nations of the Haudenosaunee are united by a common goal to live in harmony. Each nation maintains it own council with Chiefs chosen by the Clan Mother and deals with its own internal affairs but allows the Grand Council to deal with issues affecting the nations within the confederacy.

The Haudenosaunee symbol of the long house, provided by the Peacemaker, is recognized in traditional geographic locations. Upon confederation each nation took on a role within the metaphorical longhouse with the Onondaga being the Keepers of the Fire. The Mohawk, Seneca and Onondaga acted as the Elder Brothers of the confederacy while the Cayuga and Oneida were the Younger Brothers within Grand Council. The main meeting place was and still exists today on Onondaga territory.

the Haudenosaunee Confederacy’s constitution is believed to be the oldest, participatory democracy on Earth. What makes it stand out as unique to other systems around the world is its blending of law and values. For the Haudenosaunee, law, society and nature are equal partners and each plays an important role.

Haudenosaunee’s Legendary Founding

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  • Hohsia [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Just had another one of those shower thoughts that seem groundbreaking to me but would make most other leftists go “duh”

    Individualism, by definition, harms everyone else but the individual. So either liberals don’t understand statistics at a fundamental level or they just do not care. It is probably the latter

    • Grownbravy [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Doesnt it still hurt the individual? If the individual is the weakest “minority” why remain one when allying with someone benefits everyone

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        It can sorta kinda help the individual, as long as they don't push it too far and get themselves ostracized. I've got a pet theory that part of the reason we're so susceptible to religion, strong men, diffusion of responsibility, demagogues, and similar rhetorical bullshit is that back in the day you really only had to decide whether or not to trust about 100ish people, give or take 50. If Brett was a bully and a shithead it's not like he could really do anything to hide that. There's only like 150 people in your semi-nomadic hunting and foraging band. Everyone's going to know about Brett and his bullshit. Other bands you run in to might even know about Brett and his bullshit. And now matter how charismatic or persuasive or whatever Brett is, he can only ever really fuck things up for ~150 people. If Brett declares that there's a new god and it wants everyone to run off a cliff you're down a net of 150 humans, tops.

        But then some jackass invented settled agriculture, taxes, and take out food and suddenly the population density ballooned enormously, there were resources that could realistically be guarded or made scarce, and now people like Brett could influence thousands or tens of thousands and later millions of people.

        We're all set up to deal with Bretts at the interpersonal level, but if you've got a Brett you've never met and only know about from TV and news articles and propaganda you don't have the same kind of tools to evaluate him.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      [by aimixin]

      "Collectivist" and "individualist" are nonsensical false dichotomies. "Individualists" love to criticize the "collectivists" for wanting to "sacrifice the individual for the collective" and insist that "the individual is more important than the collective". These nonsensical phrases see the individual as an "island unto themselves", that the individual is separate from society, and therefore you can speak of the individual and society as distinct entities.

      Yet, this is just objectively not true, the individual is part of that very same collective. If you sacrifice the collective, you also sacrifice the individual, as the collective is merely the totality of individuals.

      And, in practice, this is how all "individualists" behave in the real world. They advocate in favor of the sacrificing of the vast majority of individuals in order to promote the individuality of a very few number of individuals.

      The most "individually free" society conceivable would be a dictatorship as the dictator would be individually free to dictate whatever he want without any hindrance, but this comes at the sacrifice of the collective's individuality.

      The self-contradictory incoherent nature of "individualism" causes so-called "individualists" to advocate directly in favor of the enslavement of the vast majority of individuals to a few. It's an incoherent ideology as "collectivism" and "individualism" are inseparable, the individual is part of the collective, and you cannot sacrifice the collective without sacrificing the individual.

      Take the issue of private property, for example. Marxists point out that capitalist societies deprive the vast majority of individuals of the means of production and destine them to work for others for their entire lives, so they advocate for collective control over the means of production so that individuals can actually have control in the economy.

      "Individualists" respond to this by saying that this is "sacrificing the individual for the collective" and vehemently defend the massively unequal ownership of the majority of the economy by a small handful of oligarchs because to them, their individual right to be an oligarch is more important than the individuality of the millions of people underneath that oligarch.