• SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    the unspoken (hell, sometimes spoken) assumption is that China would be doing a lot better with a Western-style neoliberal economy, which is an extremely funny assertion when all these economies are doing even worse than China is

    there's a manufacturing and possibly soon-to-be services recession everywhere. hyperfocussing on China while everybody else metaphorically (and literally) burns around them is just silly.

    and, as others have said, the US is literally declaring economic war against China! again, it's Schrodinger's Sanctions! They both exist and are good, but also aren't doing anything and it's all that country's fault! "Ooo, Russia is experiencing a fall in GDP in 2022, this proves that Putin's war machine isn't sustaina--" no, it proves that you've put sanctions on them! "Aha, Cuba and Venezuela's economies are collapsing and they can't afford enough basic necessities, this just shows how socialism is--" No, it proves that the sanctions that you actively boast about putting on them are working! "See, China's economy is now not doing so hot (defined as "only" growing by like 5-6% or whatever), this is really a lesson in how Marxist econo--" Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that you're putting sanctions on their industries instead, the thing you, again, boast about doing?

    "See, this patient is blacking out when we put pressure on his carotid artery, this shows how their vascular system is simply inferior to our own (which isn't being actively strangled)!"

    • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      the unspoken (hell, sometimes spoken) assumption is that China would be doing a lot better with a Western-style neoliberal economy, which is an extremely funny assertion when all these economies are doing even worse than China is

      if this dogshit blind ideologically poisoned take were even remotely accurate we'd have seen India, Russia, etc making gains against poverty that China has. Instead, woops.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          11 months ago

          No don't you see, all the non-white bad nations are the same and do the same things the same way. Because they hate Freedom!

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      11 months ago

      China's economy is growing while the entire west's economy is shrinking! Here's why that means communism doesn't work and China will collapse any day now!"

      • DBVegas [any, comrade/them]
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        11 months ago

        If the US doesn't embrace a socialist party we'll go back to a unipolar world and hint it won't be the US running shit for a change.

    • loathesome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      There is a large country with a large population and a neoliberal order right next to China. We can see how that political arrangement works out in real time.