you're so wrong it's hard to know where to even begin. You buy into the premise that the US arming reactionaries and building them up as a force to destabilize and entire region is somehow "protecting" people.
you're so wrong it's hard to know where to even begin
Yeah man looks like you have all that insight from your secret sources that anyone else does not.
Why is the entirety of Europe so dumb and supports Ukraine not getting fucked for literally no valid reason?
Look, there's basically two theories for why no one outside this removed bubble agrees with these shit takes - especially in the region where this is happening.
A) you and the twenty other dudes are just smarter than anyone else that cannot see through what you have apparently uncovered by sitting on your desk and browsing the web
B) the absolute majority of politicians, the military, and the actual people living in the continent have gotten it right
If you think A) is the case then I don't know what else to tell you
Why is the entirety of Europe so dumb and supports Ukraine not getting fucked for literally no valid reason?
Loaded question that presupposes that Europe is actually "supporting" Ukraine and not simply dangling membership in the world's largest protection racket in front of them like a carrot on a stick, in order to get them to fight a pointless and avoidable war to destabilize Russia, while also further privatizing and looting the Ukrainian economy.
So, again, your argument is that you have unique insight that no one else has. Do you even realize that at this point?
Even if what you said was true and by chance you got it right, there's so much in it that makes literally no sense.
simply dangling membership in the world's largest protection racket in front of them like a carrot on a stick
Literally no one was having serious talks about this before the invasion. If that was the end goal all along that could have been so much easier BEFORE the war.
n order to get them to fight a pointless and avoidable war to destabilize Russia
Russia was not stable in any way, share, or form before the war. They weren't even a real democracy.
And, again, even if that were true: Russia started the war. And they can end it at any point in time.
The west doesn't have to destabilize Russia because they are absolutely irrelevant from both a economics and military perspective.
Which is presumably why they started the war.
while also further privatizing and looting the Ukrainian economy
They are being gifted weapons and money. Idk how you could even think this was a net gain.
don't know why you're fixated on this point. Russia isn't a democracy. And? Nobody here is arguing that Russia is a good country or a democracy.
Of course you imagine that the capitalist class dictatorships in the NATO countries are real democracies because they practice multi-party elections between competing capitalist factions, while failing to ever represent working class or marginalized interests except in the most nominal and symbolic ways.
They are being gifted weapons and money. Idk how you could even think this was a net gain.
Ukraine is not being gifted anything. they're expected to pay for all of this "aid," with interest. Down the line this will be used as an excuse to privatize and loot their economy. Oh wait. It already is.
you're so wrong it's hard to know where to even begin. You buy into the premise that the US arming reactionaries and building them up as a force to destabilize and entire region is somehow "protecting" people.
Yeah man looks like you have all that insight from your secret sources that anyone else does not.
Why is the entirety of Europe so dumb and supports Ukraine not getting fucked for literally no valid reason?
Look, there's basically two theories for why no one outside this removed bubble agrees with these shit takes - especially in the region where this is happening.
A) you and the twenty other dudes are just smarter than anyone else that cannot see through what you have apparently uncovered by sitting on your desk and browsing the web B) the absolute majority of politicians, the military, and the actual people living in the continent have gotten it right
If you think A) is the case then I don't know what else to tell you
Loaded question that presupposes that Europe is actually "supporting" Ukraine and not simply dangling membership in the world's largest protection racket in front of them like a carrot on a stick, in order to get them to fight a pointless and avoidable war to destabilize Russia, while also further privatizing and looting the Ukrainian economy.
So, again, your argument is that you have unique insight that no one else has. Do you even realize that at this point?
Even if what you said was true and by chance you got it right, there's so much in it that makes literally no sense.
Literally no one was having serious talks about this before the invasion. If that was the end goal all along that could have been so much easier BEFORE the war.
Russia was not stable in any way, share, or form before the war. They weren't even a real democracy.
And, again, even if that were true: Russia started the war. And they can end it at any point in time.
The west doesn't have to destabilize Russia because they are absolutely irrelevant from both a economics and military perspective.
Which is presumably why they started the war.
They are being gifted weapons and money. Idk how you could even think this was a net gain.
yeah, we know.
don't know why you're fixated on this point. Russia isn't a democracy. And? Nobody here is arguing that Russia is a good country or a democracy.
Of course you imagine that the capitalist class dictatorships in the NATO countries are real democracies because they practice multi-party elections between competing capitalist factions, while failing to ever represent working class or marginalized interests except in the most nominal and symbolic ways.
Ukraine is not being gifted anything. they're expected to pay for all of this "aid," with interest. Down the line this will be used as an excuse to privatize and loot their economy. Oh wait. It already is.