So, again, your argument is that you have unique insight that no one else has. Do you even realize that at this point?
Even if what you said was true and by chance you got it right, there's so much in it that makes literally no sense.
simply dangling membership in the world's largest protection racket in front of them like a carrot on a stick
Literally no one was having serious talks about this before the invasion. If that was the end goal all along that could have been so much easier BEFORE the war.
n order to get them to fight a pointless and avoidable war to destabilize Russia
Russia was not stable in any way, share, or form before the war. They weren't even a real democracy.
And, again, even if that were true: Russia started the war. And they can end it at any point in time.
The west doesn't have to destabilize Russia because they are absolutely irrelevant from both a economics and military perspective.
Which is presumably why they started the war.
while also further privatizing and looting the Ukrainian economy
They are being gifted weapons and money. Idk how you could even think this was a net gain.
don't know why you're fixated on this point. Russia isn't a democracy. And? Nobody here is arguing that Russia is a good country or a democracy.
Of course you imagine that the capitalist class dictatorships in the NATO countries are real democracies because they practice multi-party elections between competing capitalist factions, while failing to ever represent working class or marginalized interests except in the most nominal and symbolic ways.
They are being gifted weapons and money. Idk how you could even think this was a net gain.
Ukraine is not being gifted anything. they're expected to pay for all of this "aid," with interest. Down the line this will be used as an excuse to privatize and loot their economy. Oh wait. It already is.
So, again, your argument is that you have unique insight that no one else has. Do you even realize that at this point?
Even if what you said was true and by chance you got it right, there's so much in it that makes literally no sense.
Literally no one was having serious talks about this before the invasion. If that was the end goal all along that could have been so much easier BEFORE the war.
Russia was not stable in any way, share, or form before the war. They weren't even a real democracy.
And, again, even if that were true: Russia started the war. And they can end it at any point in time.
The west doesn't have to destabilize Russia because they are absolutely irrelevant from both a economics and military perspective.
Which is presumably why they started the war.
They are being gifted weapons and money. Idk how you could even think this was a net gain.
yeah, we know.
don't know why you're fixated on this point. Russia isn't a democracy. And? Nobody here is arguing that Russia is a good country or a democracy.
Of course you imagine that the capitalist class dictatorships in the NATO countries are real democracies because they practice multi-party elections between competing capitalist factions, while failing to ever represent working class or marginalized interests except in the most nominal and symbolic ways.
Ukraine is not being gifted anything. they're expected to pay for all of this "aid," with interest. Down the line this will be used as an excuse to privatize and loot their economy. Oh wait. It already is.