• silvercove@lemdro.id
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    10 months ago

    Electric cars are to save automobile industry profits. Not the planet.

    If you want to save the planet, then ride a bicycle.

    • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      Sounds great if you don't have to commute many miles 2 times per day in an area with no public transit.

      All just to keep the roof over your head

      • 7bicycles [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Yeah the long commute is of course an immuteable fact of life and cannot be changed

          • AOCapitulator [they/them]
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            10 months ago

            What they were implying with their statement was that your life was made to be this way by the decisions of dead capitalists who caused infrastructure and the way we live our lives to be this way so that they could make money

            Housing laws caused suburban sprawl which has been worsened, at least in the US, by utterly foolish parking minimum laws. Thats why you have a commute like this, because cars were forced on us instead of trains, biking, and walking.

          • 7bicycles [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            I'm thinking societal changes not individualist ones. Think bigger, who the fuck enjoys a long commute?

            • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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              10 months ago

              Original comment I replied to said "save the planet, ride a bicycle" and my reply related to that.

              I'd love a combination teleporter/blowjob machine but for now a shorter commute would be a treat

              • 7bicycles [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                but for now a shorter commute would be a treat

                This is achievable though is my point

                • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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                  10 months ago

                  For many, job shopping is a luxury, and moving is a very high cost.

                  You're expressing a privileged opinion.

                  That's ok, we all have them, but what seems logical and obvious to some, is a simple impossibility to others.

                  • 7bicycles [he/him]
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                    10 months ago

                    Why are you so into solving this on an individualist basis, I made it pretty clear I'm talking societal changes here

                    • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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                      10 months ago

                      Because individuals buy and use cars, and the original comment I replied to implored commuters not to use evs and adopt a public transit /bike only lifestyle.

                      My comment discussed the pressures of life on the individual.

                      • 7bicycles [he/him]
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                        10 months ago

                        Because individuals buy and use cars, and the original comment I replied to implored commuters not to use evs and adopt a public transit /bike only lifestyle.

                        Yeah if you really want to interpret it that way, it's just a slogan man

        • ThenThreeMore@startrek.website
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          10 months ago

          True, but given the right government policy the provision of high quality, high speed, highly affordable public transport very much can be changed.

    • Surface_Detail@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      Hard to carry a TV on a bicycle, or transport loads to the recycling centre, or drop my kids off at school or any one of a thousand things that occur day to day.

      Our world redesigned itself with the invention of cars. Trying to exist without them is very hard for your average family, especially those who live outside cities.

      • silvercove@lemdro.id
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        10 months ago

        If you live in a backwards place this may be so. I can do all of those things without a car.

        • Surface_Detail@lemmy.ml
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          10 months ago

          It's a town of 90k people. The kind of town that the vast majority of people in the UK live in.

          Just out of curiosity how can you transport something large and bulky, that isn't allowed on public transport, let's say furniture, or the remains of a shed you dismantled or any one of a hundred inconvenient loads that occur during your life without a car?

            • Surface_Detail@lemmy.ml
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              10 months ago

              Someone needs to own a car still.

              And that someone can't be available every day when I need to do two school runs and an office trip.

              That someone can't always be available when the sink springs a leak and I need to go buy some new washers and plumber's mait.

              I really question your life experience at this point. If you're single, childless and living in a big city, sure, cars are very unnecessary. For most people this isn't the case

              • 7bicycles [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                And that someone can't be available every day when I need to do two school runs and an office trip.

                Listen I think if you have to carry furniture and shed remains to the school and office daily I don't think transportation options is the real problem