cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/6168675

RRFBs. HAWK signals. Do any of these devices actually do what they're supposed to do, and how do traffic engineers decide when and where to install them?

  • https://piped.video/watch?v=3HCDFczGh84
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HCDFczGh84

As a European, much of this was mind-boggling to me. While I believe all of this is real, I still found myself wondering throughout the video: Is this actually the norm in the US, or are these some cherry-picked bad examples? It felt for me like a whole other level of systemic hostility.

  • HotSoda [love/loves]
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, this fairly normal. It's not like it's every street. These are boulevards, like arteries through a city. The traffic isn't high enough for a highway but too much for single lanes. Usually lined with businesses and stuff like that.

    I've been a walker for most of my life. It's really not a big deal. You cross when you can. Stopping in the median/island is normal. Most of the time you just cross at a corner that has traffic lights though.

    The whole vehicles must stop for pedestrians thing gets really overblown. I never want cars to stop for me. They're 2+ ton metal objects moving faster than I can move, I want them to go past and be away from me. The only time I've ever been hit by a car was when one stopped for me, the driver stopped paying attention, and suddenly hit the gas when I was directly in front of them.

    I wave them to pass me. It's just easier.

      • HotSoda [love/loves]
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        1 year ago

        I thought that's what the guy in the video said but I chalked it up me not hearing him right lol.
        Never heard of stroads before. Thanks