This is a followup to @SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 's recent thread for completeness' sake.

I'll state an old classic that is seen as a genre defining game because it is: Myst. Yes, it redefined the genre... in ways I fucking hated and that the adventure game genre took decades to fully recover from. It was a pompous mess in its presentation and was the worst kind of "doing action does vague thing or nothing at all, where is your hint book" puzzle gameplay wrapped in graphical hype which ages pretty poorly as far as appeal qualities go.

So many adventure games tried to be Myst afterward that the sheer budgetary costs and redundancy of the also-rans crashed the adventure game genre for years.

  • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
    hexbear
    10
    10 months ago

    I don't give them as much of a pass as you say. I want Armored Core games to have difficulty sliders and accessibility options.

    Hmm, sounds a lot like what a lib says when called out about how they didn't criticize amerikkka after they said something about Russia or China thinkin-lenin

    All I'm doing is calling out your hypocrisy here because I've never seen a single comment of yours saying a single negative thing about Armored Core but you never shut up about Souls or Elden Ring, even if you don't mention it by name it's always obvious what you're talking about

    I'm not defending any of the Souls games or Elden Ring's lack of accessibility options but I'd argue that literally every Souls game already has more accessibility options than any Armored Core game just by the virtue of being playable co-op, you can literally just have someone else carry you through the whole series if you really wanted to and have a friend who's into it (I'm genuinely willing to do this for anyone)

    I suppose the aesthetic difference is grimdark quasi medieval schlock is tiresome to me and big flying robot go brrrrr.

    On the one hand I agree that sci fi, cyberpunk and giant mechs are better than midieval fantasy but if you think all the Souls series has is grimdark then you don't know what you're talking about

    Hell the main reason 99% of all soulslikes not made by From suck so much is because they're grimdark for the sake of grimdark instead of interesting lore

    I am not mad about it. It's just eye rolling marketing I poked mild fun at, and poking fun at the game's marketing clearly upset you so you reacted to that with directed hostility toward me for most of your reply.

    I don't mean to be hostile but maybe I can't help it when I've seen you hating on the Souls games for months now in a way that's honestly kind of weird

    I'm not saying everyone has to like the games but you went out of your way to bring up Elden Ring in a discussion about predatory practices in gaming specifically microtransactions, something no Fromsoft game has or does. Why do this? I followed the link you provided then and am I the only one who finds it kinda funny that the same site criticizing Elden Ring as not being accessible enough also praises the TERF wizard game for its accessibility options and defends their position by saying that they're "here to serve people with disabilities first and foremost" or some bullshit as if trans peo people with disabilities don't exist? Am I the only one?

    I don't want to be a dick about this, I agree with and like 90% of your posts. You're objectively a better poster than most on Hexbear that 90% the time, which makes all the hate posting about Gambo and Souls all the more cringe

    Seriously question, how much of your dislike of Souls or Elden Ring is from the actual games? You don't have to like them but it seems clear to me that you don't know enough about the series to hate it, just enough to hate an idea you've formed about it based on some of the most vocal and toxic parts of the fanbase (which I'm sure you'll assume I'm part of even though I hate those guys) and honestly I think since Elden Ring your hate for Gambo has just bled into this

    I get that you hate reddit-logo but defining yourself in opposition to reddit-logo and the things redditers like can just lead to a different kind of cringe

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      8
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      Hmm

      Almost nothing good tends to come after an opener like that, especially when it's video game related.

      sounds a lot like what a lib says

      Over a video game. Over poking fun at some goofy marketing.

      All I'm doing is calling out your hypocrisy here

      Over a video game. Over poking fun at some goofy marketing.

      I don't mean to be hostile

      doubt

      You're being a living stereotype of a toxic Souls/Blood/Brace Belden Bing fan. Look at the wall of text you just put up.

      Seriously question, how much of your dislike of Souls or Elden Ring is from the actual games?

      I didn't actually state that much dislike for the games directly at all (I liked the Dark Souls series more than Elden Ring, and I did like those somewhat), but because I poked fun at a marketing gimmick, here's your wall of text.

      different kind of cringe

      What you just did is old fashioned standard toxic fandom cringe.