"Everyone who disagrees with me is Sealioning!" Its a ridiculous concept and i take exception to the suggestion that we are debate nerds, or civil. What evidence does anyone ever present in an internet debate beyond a news article or a wikipedia entry? Its become apparent that the people who write in those mediums are no more diligent with their research than anyone else. There are no consequences for laziness. Reputations no longer mean anything to media firms. They have monopoly power, they can print rubbish and continue to hold their audience. To truly examine any evidence requires questioning all assumptions and no one who spends their time arguing with strangers on the internet is going to be that committed. Apparently asking for evidence and and pointing out its flaws makes you a troll.