I can relate to that, some people here immediately turn into incredibly shitty giga libs when their privilege is being called out. As a white girl i lack firsthand experience with the racial side of that, so i'm not gonna judge how widespread that behavior is, but i know how various forms of reactionary liberalism go together and how super fucking fragile a few of the cishet dudes on here get when queer women dare to bring up their perspective in ways that question the role of straight men in the patriarchy. It's not hard to imagine that they act the same way when confronted with their mayonaisity. As marginalized comrades, we're only supposed to assure these libs that they are actual leftists completely innocent in systemic opression, not call out where they need to do self crit. It's the usual shit where members of dominant society ask us for absolution instead of our honest opinion. I hope you stick around, i always enjoy reading your posts, i love that they make this site a little less painfully crackerish, and i think we just need to keep going and confront these people with uncomfortable truths, because this site is a place where that can actually gain traction and lead to people learning and improving.
Yep. Racists get out. Fuck white people doesn't mean hate for individuals with white skin, it means hate for the society of racism that white people are in charge of. And even if is the first one, so fucking what? There's no harm done by it. There's no KKK or cops or Nazis enforcing black supremacy. It might be hurtful to hear "fuck white people" , but it isn't harmful unlike white racism that gets people killed.
Dominant society always struggles to get that being systemically opressed isn't the same as being bullied. Bullies who call them cracker or who want to guillotine all transphobes or who call for the immediate castration of all cishet men do not have the full force of a centuries-old system of violence that is seamlessly integrated into bourgeois rulership behind them to back us up. We're just some person on the internet calling them names, names that have never been used in society-wide, decades-long campaigns of demonization, that have never been part of systematic ostracism from normal everyday life, that have never been used to drive campaigns of extermination against their kind, that do not have a lifetime of accumulating, society-wide, inescapable aggression and trauma behind them.
And they will never be able to understand that, because nothing they have experienced personally comes even close to that. Because their mere right to exist has never been called into doubt. You can tell them a thousand times "no, i've been bullied myself, discrimination is different" or "i've been attacked for a chosen identity like being a leftist or being vegan, and that's gross and unfair, but it's not the same as transphobia or racism because at least it's a consequence of my actions and a part of a political struggle i've chosen to take a side in" or "i never had to fear for my life for being white, or for being German, or for being seen as a straight dude, these just aren't marginalized indentities", they never understand.
Because they're fucking libs who have accepted the parts of liberalism that make it an inherently exclusionary, discriminatory, deeply violent system by pretending that it treats all humans as equals when it verifyably doesn't. Liberal egalitarianism is a threat to my life, and to the lifes of all my black and brown comrades, and these fuckers go out of their way to prove me correct on this.
I can relate to that, some people here immediately turn into incredibly shitty giga libs when their privilege is being called out. As a white girl i lack firsthand experience with the racial side of that, so i'm not gonna judge how widespread that behavior is, but i know how various forms of reactionary liberalism go together and how super fucking fragile a few of the cishet dudes on here get when queer women dare to bring up their perspective in ways that question the role of straight men in the patriarchy. It's not hard to imagine that they act the same way when confronted with their mayonaisity. As marginalized comrades, we're only supposed to assure these libs that they are actual leftists completely innocent in systemic opression, not call out where they need to do self crit. It's the usual shit where members of dominant society ask us for absolution instead of our honest opinion. I hope you stick around, i always enjoy reading your posts, i love that they make this site a little less painfully crackerish, and i think we just need to keep going and confront these people with uncomfortable truths, because this site is a place where that can actually gain traction and lead to people learning and improving.
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Yep. Racists get out. Fuck white people doesn't mean hate for individuals with white skin, it means hate for the society of racism that white people are in charge of. And even if is the first one, so fucking what? There's no harm done by it. There's no KKK or cops or Nazis enforcing black supremacy. It might be hurtful to hear "fuck white people" , but it isn't harmful unlike white racism that gets people killed.
Dominant society always struggles to get that being systemically opressed isn't the same as being bullied. Bullies who call them cracker or who want to guillotine all transphobes or who call for the immediate castration of all cishet men do not have the full force of a centuries-old system of violence that is seamlessly integrated into bourgeois rulership behind them to back us up. We're just some person on the internet calling them names, names that have never been used in society-wide, decades-long campaigns of demonization, that have never been part of systematic ostracism from normal everyday life, that have never been used to drive campaigns of extermination against their kind, that do not have a lifetime of accumulating, society-wide, inescapable aggression and trauma behind them.
And they will never be able to understand that, because nothing they have experienced personally comes even close to that. Because their mere right to exist has never been called into doubt. You can tell them a thousand times "no, i've been bullied myself, discrimination is different" or "i've been attacked for a chosen identity like being a leftist or being vegan, and that's gross and unfair, but it's not the same as transphobia or racism because at least it's a consequence of my actions and a part of a political struggle i've chosen to take a side in" or "i never had to fear for my life for being white, or for being German, or for being seen as a straight dude, these just aren't marginalized indentities", they never understand.
Because they're fucking libs who have accepted the parts of liberalism that make it an inherently exclusionary, discriminatory, deeply violent system by pretending that it treats all humans as equals when it verifyably doesn't. Liberal egalitarianism is a threat to my life, and to the lifes of all my black and brown comrades, and these fuckers go out of their way to prove me correct on this.