I'm not going to pretend that not having borders is a solution to the problem, but I'm not going to pull the ladder up from the people looking for a better life, because that's exactly what my ancestors did, and the first batch of Europeans weren't exactly welcomed either.
Haoles got to go, and natives have every right to do whatever they need to shove them out. I don't care if they raided you, pillaged the food, or scalped your soldiers. The Settlers were genocidal colonizers that killed every living thing in order to plunder the resources of a place they don't belong.
Sure, but I’m saying it’s wrong for the ancestors of those settlers to not want other foreigners to come to the US. Native Americans are the only ones with the right to make that argument imo.
When you put it that way, oh look it's projection again. We can't let these foreigners in because they'll just murder us all.... because that's exactly what our ancestors did when they came here.
What I meant is that it's an important historical event that the first settlers were welcomed. Not that this says anything about respect towards modern day first nations.
Much of what is taught about that historical event didn’t really happen, or was conflated together. No real evidence to suggest it’s proof of the settlers being welcomed any more than tolerance of a technologically superior group of people.
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They mean we got progressively less indigenous as we killed so so many of them.
Republicans: all migrants have to go home!
Indigenous: so when are you leaving?
I'm not going to pretend that not having borders is a solution to the problem, but I'm not going to pull the ladder up from the people looking for a better life, because that's exactly what my ancestors did, and the first batch of Europeans weren't exactly welcomed either.
looking for a better life can be done without your ancestors pillaging it from people who actually should be there
I'm not following you, can you rephrase?
Haoles got to go, and natives have every right to do whatever they need to shove them out. I don't care if they raided you, pillaged the food, or scalped your soldiers. The Settlers were genocidal colonizers that killed every living thing in order to plunder the resources of a place they don't belong.
Sure, but I’m saying it’s wrong for the ancestors of those settlers to not want other foreigners to come to the US. Native Americans are the only ones with the right to make that argument imo.
I misunderstood, I thought you were a bad faith boo, sorry
Yeah, no shit? Genocidal colonialists weren't welcomed?
When you put it that way, oh look it's projection again. We can't let these foreigners in because they'll just murder us all.... because that's exactly what our ancestors did when they came here.
It really is projection, there's a saying that racists are afraid of being treated the same way that racists treat their victims
Is that so? Don't you Americans even have a holiday celebrating that the natives gave you food and stuff?
Americans have a holiday called Labor Day where service workers still have to work. I wouldn't read much into it.
What I meant is that it's an important historical event that the first settlers were welcomed. Not that this says anything about respect towards modern day first nations.
Much of what is taught about that historical event didn’t really happen, or was conflated together. No real evidence to suggest it’s proof of the settlers being welcomed any more than tolerance of a technologically superior group of people.