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as someone who sees both .world and hexbear users in this thread its kinda funny seeing how stark a difference the reaction to the meme is
I made the mistake of checking out the thread from Lemmy itself instead of Hexbear.
I need a stiff drink now
They preemptively defederated us before we federated the rest of Lemmy.
The founding of America was a little rough but it's amazing that they got as progressive as they did. Seeing as republicans nowadays support removing those fundamental rights that some old men laid out hundreds of years ago.
Edit: guys guys calm down. Yes, I know about the slavery stuff. I'm just talking about the amendment, stuff like the first amendment about free speech. States like Florida immediately come to mind because they're trying to erase and change history.
They mean we got progressively less indigenous as we killed so so many of them.
Republicans: all migrants have to go home!
Indigenous: so when are you leaving?
I'm not going to pretend that not having borders is a solution to the problem, but I'm not going to pull the ladder up from the people looking for a better life, because that's exactly what my ancestors did, and the first batch of Europeans weren't exactly welcomed either.
looking for a better life can be done without your ancestors pillaging it from people who actually should be there
Haoles got to go, and natives have every right to do whatever they need to shove them out. I don't care if they raided you, pillaged the food, or scalped your soldiers. The Settlers were genocidal colonizers that killed every living thing in order to plunder the resources of a place they don't belong.
Sure, but I’m saying it’s wrong for the ancestors of those settlers to not want other foreigners to come to the US. Native Americans are the only ones with the right to make that argument imo.
I misunderstood, I thought you were a bad faith boo, sorry
the first batch of Europeans weren't exactly welcomed either
Yeah, no shit? Genocidal colonialists weren't welcomed?
When you put it that way, oh look it's projection again. We can't let these foreigners in because they'll just murder us all.... because that's exactly what our ancestors did when they came here.
It really is projection, there's a saying that racists are afraid of being treated the same way that racists treat their victims
the first batch of Europeans weren't exactly welcomed either.
Is that so? Don't you Americans even have a holiday celebrating that the natives gave you food and stuff?
Americans have a holiday called Labor Day where service workers still have to work. I wouldn't read much into it.
What I meant is that it's an important historical event that the first settlers were welcomed. Not that this says anything about respect towards modern day first nations.
Much of what is taught about that historical event didn’t really happen, or was conflated together. No real evidence to suggest it’s proof of the settlers being welcomed any more than tolerance of a technologically superior group of people.
The founding of America was a little rough but it's amazing that they got as progressive as they did.
Counterpoint: Name a single year in the US' history where it was safe to be black.
There was a brief moment where Europe was colonizing the Americas but hadn't yet started up the slave trade and ensuing racial caste system, so yeah it was probably fine to be black in the Caribbean in like 1500 (or at least no worse than being a typical poor white person shipping off to the colonies at that point).
The American political system was built to manage the contradiction of having 30% of the southern population being black slaves. It was designed to have a "democracy" where it would take 400 years from black people arriving as slaves to still being mass incarcerated and killed in random violence today.
You can't accomplish that without having some veneer of democracy and fairness otherwise it would have been overthrown in a slave revolt in 1850 instead of being kept alive by false hope in the civil war.
No, no, no. You just don't understand the founding fathers right. They never wanted to give people fundamental rights, they wanted to make a proud patriotic America! /S.
(Why does my sarcasm feel less and less sarcastic these days?)
Massive crowd hooting and hollering
Socialist activist gives a fiery speech
Prager U hired chudface runs up, steals the mic
Shouts this, verbatim
...
Entire crowd of commies starts cheering, applauding, fist pumping in the air
and then an eagle named "small government" landed on the flagpole and shed a tear
The Lib-th Sense
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