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  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    Well yes. One is the result of a bloodthirsty and corrupt military dictatorship which is directly responsible for the deaths of millions, whereas the other is the People's Republic of China.

    However, both are China as you can see from the names they've chosen for themselves.

    • lud@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      One is one of the most democratic countries in the world and PRC is one of the most undemocratic countries of the world.

      • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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        9 months ago

        "one of the most democratic countries in the world" might be a bit of a stretch here

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          Democracy is when you spend several decades murdering and repressing all leftist political opposition. The more leftists to murder and suppress, the more democratic it is.

          • State Department Handbook, probably
          • lud@lemm.ee
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            9 months ago

            Democracy is when the people can vote for their politicians instead of countries like the PRC where they are forced.

            • Pili@lemmygrad.ml
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              9 months ago

              Democracy is when the people can vote for their politicians instead of countries like the PRC where they are forced. a selection of candidates handpicked by the US government.

              • lud@lemm.ee
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                9 months ago

                Do you have any proof of that happening or did you just make that up as usual?

                • RustyVenture [he/him]
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                  9 months ago

                  Do you have any proof that PRC citizens are forced to vote lol what the fuck even is this shit man.

                  spoiler

                  projection

            • freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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              9 months ago

              If you were forced to vote for people would you be satisfied or dissatisfied with your government?

              Then why does China have a 95.5% approval rating for their government that spans 15 years?

                • freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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                  9 months ago

                  Harvard spent 15 years conducting a massive and thorough research project.

                  https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/

                  • lud@lemm.ee
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                    9 months ago

                    Interesting. I wonder how it will look in maybe 50 years or so.

                    It's impressive how far they have come in such a short time, but I wonder for how long the population will be content by that.

                    It's a shame about the rising corruption and inequality, hopefully they will try and improve on that. The very high degrees of censorship and propaganda is also not something I am a huge fan of.

                    • freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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                      9 months ago

                      No one gives a shit what you're a fan of. Do you have any idea how much more developed the Western propaganda machine is, and for how much longer it's been operating? Do you realize that Forbes Magazine, created from the Forbes financier fortune, was built on the genocidal railroad projects that Forbes invested his family fortune in? Do you know where that fortune came from? Opium sales in China. Forbes sold drugs in China, and when China tried to ban opium, the British merchants, who owned the newspapers, wrote articles demanding war because China violated British sovereignty with this act of defense. And from that propaganda, Britain took Hong Kong, Shanghai, and multiple other port cities.

                      The West is the dominant producer of propaganda in the world.

            • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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              9 months ago

              Australia also forces their people to vote, are we also "one of the most undemocratic countries in the world"

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        Only the PRC is recognized as a country under international law. The RoC government squatting in Taiwan Province is legally no different to the ISIS occupation of parts of Iraq.

        The PRC is one of the few truly sovereign states in the world, able to resist American domination on its own terms. The residents of Taiwan Province get to vote between stooges of American imperialism and stooges of Japanese imperialism.

        • lud@lemm.ee
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          9 months ago

          The rest of the world is seemingly too scared to upset the PRC so many won't recognize Taiwan. Many countries maintain unofficial relationships.

          It's obviously a country and it's useless discussing this further with a tankie.

          The PRC is one of the few truly sovereign states in the world, able to resist American domination on its own terms.

          How do you define "American domination" and what other countries do you consider to be affected by it? Personally I don't feel dominated by idiots.

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            9 months ago

            It's obviously a country and it's useless discussing this further with a tankie.

            Renowned Tankies, the states parties to the Montevideo Convention. Hardcore Stalinists, the lot of them!

            How do you define "American domination" and what other countries do you consider to be affected by it?

            "It's useless discussing with a Tankie!", proceeds to discuss with a Tankie. Very good rhetoric, 10/10.

            • lud@lemm.ee
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              9 months ago

              So you can't define it. What a shocker.

              Sometimes it's just funny to discuss things with morons. It makes you feel like a genius in comparison.

              • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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                9 months ago

                I thought it was pointless to discuss with me? Which one is it? Retract one of your two contradictory statements and I'll happily define whatever you want.