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  • iie [they/them, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    It is extremely fucking dubious to compare IQ scores between groups living in different conditions

    IQ is not a pure or universal measure of intelligence, IQ tests are biased to measure a certain kind of thinking that is not optimal in all environments. People grow up in different environments and think in different ways, and the test is gonna favor some over others.

    American IQ scores increase every year, and the average American IQ score in 1932 has been back-estimated to around 80. According to the logic of this nazi on twitter, the average American in 1932 would have been Forest Gump.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/sep/23/james-flynn-iq-scores-environment

    If you were asked [on an IQ test]: "What do dogs and rabbits have in common?", what would you say?

    They are both mammals.

    Correct. A kid in 1900 would say: "You use dogs to hunt rabbits." He would get the question wrong because, before people had lots of formal schooling, they had a utilitarian mentality, and they were fixated on the concrete world and using it to advantage. You've been raised in a scientific world where you think classifying things is an obvious prerequisite for understanding them. To you, a dog and a rabbit are just mammals; you are not interested in whether it is a beagle and good for hunting rabbits. So IQ gains over time are totally fascinating if you know how to interpret them and don't just run around saying: "Are we getting more intelligent?"


    it is also pretty fucking dubious on an individual level, with many confounding effects observed

    Your confidence, your beliefs about yourself and your social group, test anxiety, fear of the timer running out, fear of a bad score, and so on, all affect your score.

    • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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      1 year ago

      theres an anecdote of someone studying for IQ tests to increase his score to the point of his acceptance by one of those soy universe brain organisations

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        soy universe brain organisations

        The biggest one of those was so full of dudebro Reddit-style misogynist douchebags that the single highest-IQ bearing member of it, Marilyn Vous Savant, actually quit her membership because of that background radiation.