• @Bassword
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    7 months ago

    Yeah peaceful militaries like Korea's or China's or Cuba's are ok. Anyone joining the US military though if just in it for the war crimes.

    • @Azzu@lemm.ee
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      2
      7 months ago

      I wouldn't call North Korea firing missiles over other sovereign countries very peaceful. As well as China doing troop exercises that obviously prepare for the invasion of Taiwan. I'm sure there are more examples.

      • @Bassword
        hexbear
        42
        7 months ago

        The DPRK had literally never been to war outside its territory; it's not a dove but at least it hasn't invaded multiple sovereign countries like its southern cousin.

        China does troop exercises like every single other country in the world.

        • @Azzu@lemm.ee
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          7 months ago

          I mean as long as you consider South Korea part of their territory, sure. There was though the Korean War, where North Korea invaded South Korea. Of course it's not on the same level as South Korea, but I would imagine that's more because they literally can't, they have no resources for it, not because they're amazingly peaceful people.

          • Doubledee [comrade/them]
            hexbear
            17
            7 months ago

            The north didn't invade the south though, no Koreans agreed that the US supported parallel was a permanent division of the country, both North and South fully intended to create a united Korea. Tens of thousands of Koreans were already dead from purges and suppression of uprisings in the south when the operation started. It was literally an ongoing civil war that had momentarily frozen.

            • @Azzu@lemm.ee
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              1
              7 months ago

              I'm not sure on what information you base this claim, but as far as I know the 38th parallel was agreed upon because both the udssr and the US wanted total occupation of Korea for themselves, but they both wanted to potentially avoid an armed conflict so tried a compromise.

              Then the north korean part, supported by China and unofficially by the soviet union, invaded the south to establish total control.

              • Sinister [none/use name, comrade/them]B
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                7 months ago

                No North Korea claims descend from the People's Republic of Korea and like in Germany, the US and UDSSR agreed upon an eventual neutral zone. The North invaded the South after the US sponsored regime began killing socialist uprisings, essentially protecting its citizens.

      • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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        27
        7 months ago

        It literally is, it harms no one and acts as deterrent from the US having another imperialist adventure where they kill 20 percent of Koreans.

      • booty [he/him]
        hexbear
        27
        7 months ago

        Are you talking about that time they launched a missile over the least populated possible part of Japan as part of a test? What are they supposed to do, just not advance their tech? They're surrounded, they've got to launch them over somebody and they did it the safest way they could.

        • @Azzu@lemm.ee
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          7 months ago

          No, obviously perfectly fine. They are literally doing exercises for a potential invasion to Taiwan though, which is a difference.

          • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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            7 months ago

            You can't invade your own territory. By Chinese and Taiwanese law, internationally recognized by the UN (and even the US, as asserted by Blinken the last time he was in China to pretend to be sorry), Taiwan is Chinese territory.

      • @Bassword
        hexbear
        18
        7 months ago

        What's the joke?

          • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
            hexbear
            17
            7 months ago

            OK I can see how you can twist reality to call China or the DPRK's militaries nonpeaceful even though you'd be wrong, but Cuba's? Really?

            • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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              7 months ago

              you'd be wrong

              I bet. Especially if you don't count saber rattling, threats and border skirmishes. If you don't count those then I'm wrong and they're very peaceful.

              Cuba's? Really?

              Cuba got quite a reputation during the Cold War. It's pretty interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_Cuba

              • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
                hexbear
                11
                7 months ago

                and border skirmishes.

                find me three chinese border skirmishes where the most advanced weapon used wasn't a stick or a rock.

                  • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
                    hexbear
                    4
                    7 months ago

                    see, the last time i had a conversation like this somebody posted some "list of chinese border conflicts" without reading it and it was mostly diplomatic stuff, the time the PLA ate shit against vietnam decades ago, and some literal fistfights with nepal.

              • keepcarrot [she/her]
                hexbear
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                7 months ago

                Compared to, say, the US military, which I assume the OP is talking about?