I've been speaking with other more informed communists and they've told me that none actually exist. Is this true?

China, Laos, and Vietnam: now notoriously capitalists. Workers work 12+ hours with no protection in horrible factory conditions. Suicide rates are so high that suicide nets are installed. The air is so polluted millions die from lung cancer, especially factory workers w/out basic masks. Corporations dominate

North Korea: Undemocratically ruled by the Kim dynasty. Jong un indulges lavishly at the expense of his citizens, ordering millions in fine wine and trips from Denis Rodman. They might be the most socialist though, as Juche seems to otherwise be democratic.

Cuba: Sanctions have taken a massive toll, but even taking that into account the country still has its own problems. They have massive food shortages and inventory probs and aren't self sufficient after 60+ years. Why couldn't they've use machinery imported from the Soviet Union to develop their agriculture and fishery? The Soviets supported them heavily. They seem to be incredibly mismanaged or corrupt

  • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]11•8 months ago

    Are you denying the existence of the 10 principles?

    Yes, I am.

    If you are not, are you complaining about the translation?

    Also yes.

    So I tried to find a different translation. I spent about 10 minutes on google looking for a different translation or at the very least more context about these alleged "10 principles". It seems like there is only one translation in existence, which I find to be very odd. The text as you've presented it is not long nor particularly difficult, so it shouldn't be difficult to translate. I would assume, then, that more than one person would have produced a translation and posted it to the internet, at least if the original korean text were widely available. And if these "10 principles" were official dprk policy, surely the korean text would be easily found.

    So why can I only find one translation? Maybe you can help me out here. Can you find another translation for me please? I'll also accept the original text in korean if that's easier.

    • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]8•8 months ago

      Hey @anarchost@lemm.ee, let's keep the conversation public, buddy. I've copied your dm to me below:

      That's a great stance to take! After all, the 10 principles are so ridiculous that if they were true, you'd have to condemn them outright, correct?

      Just give me the original text in korean or a different translation of them. Please?

      • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]6•8 months ago

        Two more dm's from this creep:

        Do you feel the need to have an audience to keep talking? I'm not a big fan of debate bros, personally. I would rather talk about ideas, and you are part of a server known for harassment and brigading, so I think DMs are more appropriate!

        As I understand it, your stance is now that unless you can find it written down by the source, it never happened... If that is the case, do you also believe Hitler never ordered the Holocaust?

        I'm so honored to have been among the group of people who got asked that shitty gotcha about Hitler.

        Anyway, don't bother talking to this idiot! They're not worth the effort.

        • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]5•8 months ago

          oh my god is the whole thing not even real?

          and keep posting his dms, he's been doing it instead of engaging with the post.

          and welcome to the "apparently a nazi for questioning the CIA" club