cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8181688

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  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Once you start trying to seize hierarchical control like some illuminated vanguard

    You have a completely distorted view of the historical projects of MLs. The point of a vanguard is not unilateral command, it is to be a body that is entirely concerned with political organization and engagement while other people have other jobs that take up more of their effort. That does not mean the vanguard dictates to everyone else, but rather that it seeks to find ways to put the feedback from everyone else into practical action.

    I swear, just read a single fucking book.

    1. the ego of those hexbear tankies who couldn't handle not being debated and 2) The shitposters of hexbear who just came here to have flamewars because the mods of hexbear apparently don't control anything anymore and your "left unity" only goes so much as someone disagreeing with your takes and then they're a "liberal" and therefore fair game.

    You're a two-faced prick, the people trying to engage are bad and the people being lazy like you are are also bad. What is there to do that is good? Oh right, capitulate. Meanwhile you yourself whine about "left unity" and how unfair it is that the mean tankies call you a liberal when you've been here sneering the whole fucking time about how "dae tankies don't fall under left unity because state capitalism is rightist". Fuck off.

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 months ago

      You’re a two-faced prick,

      No, I just don't have any more patience for you gaslighters.

      the people trying to engage are bad and the people being lazy like you are are also bad.

      I.just.posted.a.meme. I don't owe you a fucking debate. And I don't owe you to be your punching bag either. Fuck off with your entitlement.

      Meanwhile you yourself whine about “left unity” and how unfair it is that the mean tankies call you a liberal when you’ve been here sneering the whole fucking time about how “dae tankies don’t fall under left unity because state capitalism is rightist”. Fuck off.

      No mate, I'm just pointing out your hypocricy

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        Again, there is no correct way to disagree, because you are operating from a "tankies bad" orthodoxy. Whatever story you tell is just some bullshit because any other approach to disagreeing would also be met with the same pathologizing and accusation.

        I.just.posted.a.meme. I don't owe you a fucking debate. And I don't owe you to be your punching bag either. Fuck off with your entitlement.

        All you have is radlib indignation plus a routine that was tired on 4chan well over a decade ago: "It's just a joke bro. Yeah, I support everything it says, but it's just a joke bro, so you can't object. Jester's privilege or some shit"

        No mate, I'm just pointing out your hypocricy

        There is no left unity with someone who calls your ideology one of wanton murder. You are plainly the one who started the dispute since none of those dang tankies posted here before you made the post calling them butchers. There are lots of good anarchists -- like Nakoichi (elsewhere in the thread, being ignored by you) -- you're a radlib shitstain who wants to at all times be aggrieved while also standing smugly above it all. Just go back to whatever fucking liberal party mama and papa are telling you to support, you'll fit in better there.

        • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          8 months ago

          Again, there is no correct way to disagree,

          You can just...fuck off? You don't have to tell me you disagree 100 times.

          All you have is radlib indignation plus a routine that was tired on 4chan well over a decade ago: “It’s just a joke bro. Yeah, I support everything it says, but it’s just a joke bro, so you can’t object. Jester’s privilege or some shit”

          Oh no, the meme is right. It's not a joke. The point is, I don't owe you a debate. I don't owe you shit.

          There is no left unity with someone who calls your ideology one of wanton murder.

          You're goddamn right right there's no left unity. What there is, is MLs using anarchists before disposing them in a ditch.

          You are plainly the one who started the dispute since none of those dang tankies posted here before you made the post calling them butchers.

          So what. What kind of entitlement do you think you have that you deserve a debate every time?

          you’re a radlib shitstain who wants to at all times be aggrieved while also standing smugly above it all. Just go back to whatever fucking liberal party mama and papa are telling you to support, you’ll fit in better there.

          And you're a typical sealion. Just classic entitled behaviour, backed by your toxic mates as a mob, and then insults when the others don't play your game.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            8 months ago

            I'm not appealing to a sense of debt [i.e. "owing"], I'm appealing to the idea of intellectual integrity, though it is plain that you have none. My point is that your endless fucking whining about people being rude to you is completely worthless considering the OP. You allow no avenue for healthy disagreement and characterize all disagreement as somehow evil or pathological as though the specific content of the disagreement matters, but you'd be saying basically the same thing no matter what because you are starting from a red scare orthodoxy. You're just sticking your head in the ground like an ostrich.

            • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              8 months ago

              I told you from the start I don't want to debate. I told you civilly. I told you less civily. I told you trollishly. I. don't. owe. You. A. Debate.

              I never stopped you from disagreeing with me. I never stopped you from having a fucking platform in my own space. I just didn't debate.

              Why the fuck can you sealions not get this through your skull? You can't force people to debate either with civility or with a pack of toxic hexbears. All you did today display hexbear scumbuggery when you didn't get your way.