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where such people can support each other without assholes virgin shaming us

The funny part is that even that much isn't true. They constantly ritually shame each other for being virgins and supposedly subhuman. You're way better off talking to normal people if you don't want to be abused for your virginity.

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And, like clockwork, someone uses this post to center the concerns of cis men again

What about re-education? Being an incel is not an essential characteristic, despite what many people, including they themselves, believe.

I mean, it seems more constructive to say there is a general loneliness crisis, affecting women, NBs, and even non-incel men.

I think that the current generation generally don't care about a thousand year Reich or they have some pastoral fantasy of it in the vein of Jefferson. I think they just want money and personal power and then eventually they die. What do they care about the subsequent 700 years or whatever it is? They got theirs.

And I think this mindset is prevalent in less blatant forms in other imperial core nations, they just haven't reached the advanced rot or the US. Just look at the UK.

I was wondering that too. Doesn't the military signing on anyway put him in a position to fully Yeltsin it?

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn38321180et?post=asset%3A69e3ba8d-55f4-443e-9531-84ad91772741#post

He lifted it himself. I guess he didn't have it in him to really take over, which makes me wonder what he even hoped to accomplish in the first place.

Currently it looks like the parliament is working on approving impeaching him

I mean, a lot of people hate his style, but I think he's a pretty good singer too. Once you get past the basic conceit that he sounds constantly crossfaded, he's very expressive.

Waters, of course, is also a good singer, and doesn't have that barrier of potentially sounding incredibly annoying.

He could be bullshitting, and he and his cronies are incompetent enough to fumble this even if it was true, but this theoretically would be a great outcome for not having more war in the region.

It's probably just because they want to arm and train Azov II with even fancier weapons to do terror attacks or something.

That's exactly what doesn't happen usually, but it's one of the best outcomes (the other good outcome is if it was a hit and the corruption was uncovered as an unintended consequence)

Disgusting double talk, it eroticizes sexual violence.

It is one of the few anime brave enough to be against sexual violence and people will never forgive it for that.

Like, how can you say this with a straight face? Oh, yeah, the witness being traumatized is definitely what people objected to. Fucking bullshit

Again, if you want to discuss one part of the first episode there is nothing useful to be said

Evidence doesn't just not count because you want to dismiss it.

By the way, let me repeat that it does something much worse in the first chapter of Year One. The sexual violence is being used to pull in readers.

I think that's a counterproductive response.

"There's no way to tell if these anime girls are being sexualized during the violence, art is subjective after all".

You're a fucking coward and telling me what the consensus is among the hives of illiterate philistines who agree with you is not the point you think you scored.

You've now gone from avoiding the eroticized SV to denying it. You are contorting your self worse than Fighter's spine contorted so you could have her chest and buttocks shown so clearly in the same panel, right after her clothes were vaporized in one panel.

But you've gotta work with the pieces you're given! It was needed to get printed! It's not eroticizing SV because . . . fuck . . .

I think the stronger parody would be if you could only play as your own sex because anything else would be trans ideology

I think maybe I don't understand your point.

How can I be more clear than "deliberate compositional choices"?

I am not particularly intrested in going over the part of the discourse that is never going to be settled.

The only sense in which it is "never going to be settled" is the sense in which obtuse philistines and sickos will continue to insist, as I alluded to in another comment, that "the curtains are blue and nothing more". For all your talk of artistic rights, you seem to have no inclination to actually analyze something as art instead of just as a bunch of things that a writer said happened.

It specifically isn't glorifying violence. Everyone finds it abhorrent all the time. They even specifically call out the fact that if the government tried to help the people all this could be avoided.

As I recall, the government helping would be by organizing and subsidizing the violence against the untermensch goblins rather than leaving it to the people to handle. I don't understand how you think this advances your point.

Sexualizing teenage girls is not negated by also sexualizing teenage boys, though you really misunderstand what the concept of sexualization even is if you think the balls thing is relevant here. Sex gags are often used as an excuse for sexualization, but the balls plot and associated jokes are clearly not.

You are furthermore making up bizarre criteria to excuse the base facts of the depiction. Whether the women are helpless for the entire scene is completely immaterial, there are countless smut manga that are just as if not more disgusting where the woman does (eventually) escape of her own power.

She didn't need to lose her shirt to "make the threat more real", that was done purely for the viewer's pleasure.

More centrally to your comment, I'm not saying that Dandadan and Goblin Slayer are the same thing, I'm saying you are engaging in the same fallacy that Goblin Slayer apologists are, acting like something cannot simultaneously be eroticized and narratively "bad." In many cases, those two things can be closely interlinked, because something being narratively "bad" does not mean that you do not, on a meta level, want the viewer to not enjoy it. That's not how stories work. The Alien is meant to be scary, but it is simultaneously meant to be cool, made more obvious in the way it basically became a mascot in later enstallments. At the end of Rogue One, Darth Vader slaughtering the rebels is narratively a grim event, but it's very clearly fanservice in the broader sense because it's simultaneously meant to be enjoyed as a power fantasy of an action scene watching him carve up and force choke a big group of nameless opponents. This idea that every scene means only its explicit narrative depiction from the protagonist's perspective is like hearing the words someone says and assuming each word is exactly what it denotatively means with no nuance of connotation or innuendo.

If UT was still with us, I have faith he would say: "The curtains are blue".

.See, I don't think it is an ethnic cleansing allegory.

I didn't say it was an ethnic cleansing allegory, I said it was an ethnic cleansing fantasy. I'm not saying that the shitbag mangaka was hoping the reader would take away from the manga "I think we should do this to Koreans," I'm saying their desire was for the reader to be immersed in a fictional setting where the ethnic cleansing of this particular intelligent, humanoid species that is able to reproduce with human women is not only justified but righteous. How does that relate to the real world? I don't think the mangaka cares. You and I aren't the mangaka, and we have the ability to critically assess things, like what exactly is being appealed to by depicting organisms that are ontologically evil SV machines that force human women to give birth to more of their kind.

I just feel like this author was trying to do something diffrent with the base parts they were given.

"Given"? I'm sorry, were they an artist who inherited a manga-in-progress from an author who quit? No, they fucking chose it. They could have chosen anything and they chose what I just described above.

It isn't entirely successful I get that.

This is a bad joke. They weren't just making mistakes to depict this shit in an eroticized way, they made deliberate compositional choice after deliberate compositional choice (and then repeated it but three times worse in Year One's first chapter just to make sure you know it wasn't somehow a catastrophic accident). If you want to depict SV as something horrible . . . first of all, really consider not depicting the act itself, it's gonna be gratuitous, but secondly don't depict it like that.

It is however less rasicst and more against sexual violence than any random marvel move

I'm sure you find it compelling to say that it deals with issues better than something that doesn't deal with them at all, but that would be a lame argument even if it was true and it's not even true! It makes deliberate compositional choices to make sure that isn't the case.

I dunno, I feel like the fact that it depicts violence as bad

Sure as hell doesn't depict violence against intelligent humanoids of each species as being bad. Oh! Sorry! You meant sexual violence. It depicts it as being bad in maybe the same way a racist views BBC as being bad, i.e. still something to get off on.

things it arguably did no worse than any other anime of the time.

The first issue of the manga was in 2016! What fucking renaissance has happened since then that let's us go "let's not judge the past by the standards of the present"?! Furthermore, most other manga were not depicting eroticized r*** and a great deal weren't doing ethnic cleansing fantasies.