I do not know why this specific fact made to the front page or whether if it has something to do with the seige on Gaza right now and American Government being totally pog with it.

  • logflume [they/them]
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    8 months ago

    a genocide has to start with holo- or else it’s just sparkling massacre

    • iridaniotter [she/her, they/them]
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      8 months ago

      Wikipedia with the centrist take

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

      Both the famine in the USSR as well as Nazi extermination of Soviet citizens were genocides

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        This article's factual accuracy is disputed. (October 2023)

        barbara-pit for Wikipedia editors.

        • iridaniotter [she/her, they/them]
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          8 months ago

          On the talk page it says they added it cause they can't decide if non-Jews count as Holocaust victims lmao. So I guess you guys were right.

          • panopticon [comrade/them]
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            8 months ago

            I think losurdo said the deaths of Soviet POWs may have reached 5 million so of course wikiHimmler went with the under estimate