You had your time — now, we have other things to fight for.

But even some progressive gay white men say they feel alienated from a movement they see becoming more radical, particularly online, where the tenor of conversation is often uncivil.

Hot take: I'm honestly, vocally sick of settler-gay men who demand that you handle them with kid gloves when their entire existence within the community is an existence blanketed in microaggression at best, when they're not being outright full-on macroaggressive about someone that 'doesn't fit their "preference"'; and I'm genuinely glad people are starting to talk about it.

  • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    But even some progressive gay white men say they feel alienated from a movement they see becoming more radical, particularly online,

    Gen Xers getting old. Mad that the kids don't want to assimilate. Acting like intersectionality has no place is erasing, uh, a lot of the people who were at Stonewall. No respect for conservative gay people of this type. Boggles the mind that you can be oppressed by the state like this, and then stop giving a shit the second you're allowed to marry. Does the experience not give you ANY sympathy for anyone who isn't a white, cis, able bodied, neurotypical man?

    [Rosendall] said protesting police presence at Pride overlooks decades of work spent improving relations between the D.C. LGBTQ+ community and the police force; the department even has an LGBTQ+ liaison and is considered a model for inclusion.

    acab

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Some of the most insufferably chuddy gay men I have ever known basically decided to drop all pretenses of caring about the rest of the LGBTQIA+ community the moment gay marriage was legalized. capitalist-woke

        • Kaplya
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          7 months ago

          Collaborationism is very real and has happened all over the world throughout history. You only need to look at the history of colonialism to see exactly how the oppressed will help their oppressors so long as they also benefit somewhat from it.

          • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]
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            7 months ago

            Oh I know, it's just confusing and infuriating how people will desperately try to be "one of the good ones" and such...

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          There's a certain literal vampire gay billionaire that is like the high lord of all chuddery and seriously said that if women never got the right to vote in the US about a century ago, the Le Singularity(tm) would have happened by now. what-the-hell

    • Kaplya
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      7 months ago

      Does the experience not give you ANY sympathy for anyone who isn't a white, cis, able bodied, neurotypical man?

      This goes all the way back to the early suffragette movement where voting rights were to be extended only to white middle/upper class women.

      This is simply the core ideology of liberalism. Capitalism cannot function without social antagonism - someone has to be exploited. You literally cannot take that out of the equation. And if equality is extended to every social group, who else but one set of people are you going to blame the ills of society on?.

    • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      [Rosendall] said protesting police presence at Pride overlooks decades of work spent improving relations between the D.C. LGBTQ+ community and the police force; the department even has an LGBTQ+ liaison and is considered a model for inclusion.

      the best part is the follow-up:

      “There’s a risk of behaving in a totalitarian mindset,” he said.

      freedom is when cops. totalitarianism is when no cops. It takes decades of work to reach a theoretical conclusion this profound

    • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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      7 months ago

      Yeeeeeah I don't know what had me throwed more, the Gen Xers who tapped out as soon as they got the right to marry and started pulling the ladders up behind them, or that wretched invertebrate simpering for swine about "oh wah we spent so much time 'improving relations'" when they should've been spending time leaving the swine in outlines. Just more evidence of settler-queers being the weakest link

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      7 months ago

      [Rosendall] said protesting police presence at Pride overlooks decades of work spent improving relations between the D.C. LGBTQ+ community and the police force; the department even has an LGBTQ+ liaison and is considered a model for inclusion.

      god go fuck yourself. if this is who I think it is, he stood between counterprotestors and literal neo-nazis celebrating at a bar - not with his own body, but by lining up other cops. even the fucking cops on the line had the decency to cry over what they were doing.