Also does anyone have a way to turn threads into something I can download, so they don't get deleted?

  • Vampire [any]M
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    6 months ago

    It works to alleviate homelessness and starvation within the country, whilst working within the capitalist imperialist system that will be the downfall of us all if we do nothing about it. I think capitalism is bad, but within that badness, UBI seems - based on the data and research available - to be a tool that makes it less bad for those existing within it.

    This is welfare. This is what welfare does.

    • Egon [they/them]
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      Yes you are correct. Ubi is a form of welfare.

      • Vampire [any]M
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        6 months ago

        Most red support the welfare state under capitalism, as espoused by Clement Attlee, Jeremy Corbyn, etc.

        Why should we persuaded to suddenly extend it to employed people?

        That's all UBI people want to do when you strip away the fancy terminology and American Thought: give people with jobs the dole.

        What's the argument in favour of giving people with jobs the dole?

        • Egon [they/them]
          hexagon
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          6 months ago

          The argument for it is the results as presented in those 91 research articles i linked.
          If you wanna argue with someone about uni, argue with the dude that compiled those articles, I'm barely thru the first few of them.

          • Vampire [any]M
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            6 months ago

            A pilot study where a group of people are given money tells us nothing about the effects on the economy of UBI. How will it increase tax? How will salaries adjust?

            Looking at the 91 research articles, half of them don't even claim to be about UBI. They don't mention UBI. They are studies on direct cash transfers which is a different thing.

            • Egon [they/them]
              hexagon
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              6 months ago

              Okay? I don't really understand why you're trying to argue with me as if I'm some sort of arch-ubi advocate.

              • Vampire [any]M
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                6 months ago

                This isn't reddit, we're not recreationally arguing, we're here to learn

                • Egon [they/them]
                  hexagon
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                  6 months ago

                  Then why are you trying to start an argument, instead of reading the research articles?

                  • Vampire [any]M
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                    6 months ago

                    why are you trying to start an argument

                    kel-what